Posted on 04/24/2013 9:15:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Can't believe people are for this. Drones being used in America. He set the opening they could if they had a warrant blah blah blah and if it was a suspected really really bad guy. Not one word from Paul about the police overreaching in Boston. Nothing. Some cases were way over the line. Even my police officer son said wait a minute here. So, now a new division amongst us. I have my side. No drones at all on our citizens.
“But I would say that Paul understands and respects the Constitution more than 99.9% of politicians.”
And I would say he wants you to think that, but it isn’t reality. Like father like son.
That fact that you stated quit clearly your belief that I should have a drone sent to my house to kill me.
Interesting that you refuse to even come talk to me in person.
Lack of courage I guess.
I see his stance as a more of a refusal to rule out legit use of a new tool. Replace warranted surveillance tools with something more cost effective.
He does not condone arming these domestic drones for regular law enforcement use. That much should be clear.
You guys are right. In fact, we should stop ALL police patrols effective immediately. Nor should we, under warrant and signed affidavit, ever perform any kind of surveillance on anyone under investigation.
All over-flights of helicopters, small aircraft, and squad car patrols should hereby be halted.
Would that satisfy you? If you are being logically consistent, that is what you would have to do. Replacing helo or Cessna warrant ordered over-flights with a cost effective remote drone is what Rand is talking about. Not the UNWARRANTED and arbitrary use we’ve been complaining about the government doing.
Y’all would know this if you’d bother to actually think about what is being said.
PDS is a sad thing to see on display.
Both untrue and unfair. It's precisely the kind of distinction that Rand is making here that seperates him from his father.
How do you know there aren’t cross hairs on you right this minute. The govt could have a drone watching you and the pilots finger is on the fire button.
All approved by Paul because you have been labeled ‘dangerous’.
Due process, we don’t need no stinkin due process. We have HUGE out of control egos and keyboards to hide behind.
True and fair.
He supports the illegal immigration and now this. Actions speak loudly and he has failed.
Terrorism is one of those areas. It IS the government's constitutional job to provide a defense for the homeland. If people don't think that includes modern technology...then they need to get rid of their AR's...and stop all helo's with FLIR capability...among NUMEROUS other things.
People are funny. They want all their modern conveniences...but want law enforcement to act like the Amish...anything higher than that is an assualt on their civil rights. It's easier for the left to maginalize people when they give them reason after reason tht defies common sense.
Your projection aside, I'm as dangerous as buttermilk and anyone surveilling me for more than five minutes would be able to figure that out.
You, on the other hand, are issuing death threats...
“He does not condone arming these domestic drones for regular law enforcement use. That much should be clear”
Lets face reality, saying that you don’t care if a guy running out of a liquor store with $50 in his hand is killed by a drone or a cop is pretty much regular law enforcement.
This drone thing has got to be nipped in the bud or its going to be ruling us in 5 years from now.
LOL yer funny
Drones are only the start. In DOD circles there are companies selling all kinds of remote detection/monintoring systems. Its all public information and available for any govt entity in the US.
All drones do is replace what they are currently doing with one tool, with a different tool.
We have too many laws and too much government.
Want to over-fly my property with a drone? Get a warrant.
That is what Rand is saying. Anything else is pure PDS imagination.
I wish I could say the same for you.
“Want to over-fly my property with a drone? Get a warrant.”
They aren’t getting warrants and they aren’t telling you.
Which is what Rand, the guy you are pissing and moaning about, wanted stopped.
Or did you miss that part?
There is no "now this". It's exactly the same position he made clear during the filibuster. As for illegal immgration, I don't agree with him there, but that hardly makes him a clone of his dad or wrong about everything else. I can't think of any politician I've ever agreed with 100% of the time.
He’s supporting the use of Drones. Once they have drones they will use them. They won’t be allowed to sit on the bench waiting for a warrant. Call it training like the Air Force does when they use drones over the US.
Heck the FBI doesn’t get warrants for traditional law enforcement under their current exceptions. Why would they change.
Not agreeing with a politician is one thing.
Supporting a politician who is supporting big govt ideas that slam freedom is another.
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