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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev admits to setting bombs with brother, source says
boston globe ^ | 4/23 | cullen

Posted on 04/24/2013 12:01:55 PM PDT by RummyChick

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev admitted to authorities Sunday that he and his brother were behind the Marathon bombings, according to a senior law enforcement official.

Tsarnaev made his admissions to FBI agents who interviewed him at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, where he is being treated for multiple gunshot wounds. He had not yet been given a Miranda warning.

Tsarnaev’s attorneys are certain to challenge the legal admissibility of those admissions, and other information he gave them, such as claiming that he and his brothers acted alone, and that his brother was radicalized in an extreme form of Islam in part because he opposed US actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonglobe.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bomber; bostonbombing; confession; fastandfurious2; fastfurious2; marathonbombing; tsarnaev
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To: kingu
Let’s be perfectly honest here - the only issue in court is if he’s executed or spends the rest of his life in prison.

Exactly. This guy isn't going anywhere. The older brother might would refuse to plead out so he could grandstand at trial. The kid, I suspect, would be willing (at some point) to take a plea and cooperate in exchange for taking the death penalty off the table. Not sure if the government is feeling charitable or really needs anything from him at this point though.

21 posted on 04/24/2013 12:28:24 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: plain talk

Holder wants to greatly expand the public safety exemption to Miranda warnings.

Including questioning about things that have nothing to do with public safety.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/20/boston-marathon-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-mirnada-rights

“”There may be exceptional cases in which, although all relevant public safety questions have been asked, agents nonetheless conclude that continued unwarned interrogation is necessary to collect valuable and timely intelligence not related to any immediate threat, and that the government’s interest in obtaining this intelligence outweighs the disadvantages of proceeding with unwarned interrogation.””


22 posted on 04/24/2013 12:32:01 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: kingu

The statements may not be inadmissable. Anything the suspect says is admissible, regardless of Miranda, if the statement is made freely and not as part of direct questioning by law enforcement. If somebody is placed in custody and then starts spouting off, there is no requirement for officers to stop him to read him his rights.


23 posted on 04/24/2013 12:34:49 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: RummyChick

And it was taped?


24 posted on 04/24/2013 12:36:24 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Cyman

http://jurist.org/paperchase/2011/09/federal-judge-rules-accused-plane-bombers-hospital-statements-admissible.php

” A judge for the US District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan [official website] ruled [case materials] Thursday that statements made by Nigerian national Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab [BBC profile; JURIST news archive] while in the hospital following his alleged attempt to detonate a bomb on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 are admissible. Abdulmutallab argued that the conduct of the FBI agents was coercive because they interviewed him while under the effects of painkillers [text, PDF] and did not give him Miranda warnings. The government responded that Abdulmutallab’s statements were voluntary [text, PDF] because the fact that an individual was on painkillers alone does not necessitate a finding of involuntariness and there was no evidence of any type of coercive conduct by the FBI agents. The government further argued that the lack of Miranda warnings was justified by the fact that Abdulmutallab claimed that he was trained by al Qaeda and the agents feared that an immediate interview was necessary to ascertain whether there were other imminent attacks planned”


25 posted on 04/24/2013 12:40:37 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Sacajaweau

..........................................................................Senior police official said authorities are not worried about the initial admission to authorities being thrown out, because they have a strong witness: the man who was abducted by the Tsarnaev brothers last Thursday night.

According to the official,... the bombers repeatedly told the carjack victim that they were going to New York, which is why they used his ATM card at various locations: they needed cash for the trip.


26 posted on 04/24/2013 12:46:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: Longbow1969

” The death penalty has been shown over and over to be more expensive to use than to imprison someone in prison for the rest of his life. This is because the cost of prosecution goes up exponentially in capital cases, then the appeals process is lengthy and again extremely expensive.

I personally think that the cost of capital punishment is too much to bear from both a fiscal and a moral standpoint.

Furthermore, I think being 19 and looking forward to a long life inside a prison cell living with animals is infinitely more punishment than being given the respite of death.

(From @RanBirkins ... Former sex crimes and homicides prosector. Commenting on thread)..I agreee.


27 posted on 04/24/2013 12:50:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: Mr Fuji

Hey, outrage is dynamic


28 posted on 04/24/2013 12:50:54 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: caww

It didn’t take long to execute McVeigh


29 posted on 04/24/2013 12:53:13 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: American Quilter
There's absolutely no reason to hit him. This isn't the mob. And by now they have made a video of his testimony and he has signed affidavits. Damn right it will hold up in court.

This isn't Perry Mason....Someone out of the blue isn't going to jump up in court and say they did it.

30 posted on 04/24/2013 12:54:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: caww

Only 1 admitted it
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313132/Did-hear-Boston-Marathon-explosion-I-did-Chilling-words-bomber-carjacking-victim-said-spared-wasnt-American.html

And if the witness is killed by another terrorist cell member...then what.

Harken back to the days when the mafia was about the worst thing we faced. instead of jihadists..they killed off witnesses.


31 posted on 04/24/2013 12:54:39 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“You have a confused, drugged, shot in the throat, scared kid whose brother gave him a backpack and he had no idea what was in it and was terrorized into admitting guilt - which can’t be admitted anyway...

Yeah, it could play that way”

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And so begins a media and legal circus the likes of which hasn’t been seen in quite a while.


32 posted on 04/24/2013 12:55:12 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: caww
The death penalty has been shown over and over to be more expensive to use than to imprison someone in prison for the rest of his life.

Yeah, but it's hard to argue against that 0% recidivism rate.

33 posted on 04/24/2013 12:55:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sacajaweau

You have the right to confront your accuser.

It’s called cross examination.


34 posted on 04/24/2013 12:56:44 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

A lot of liberals believe that his motives (hating America, hating Christianity) were actually valid motives. It would not surprise me in the least if a jury lets him off with some sort of temporary insanity plea, or some sort of “justified” Jihad claim or something. We’re reaching that point where liberals are actually seeing this sort of action against the “Old white men” or “crazy Christian wing-nuts” as justifiable.


35 posted on 04/24/2013 12:58:02 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: plain talk
It may have been his condition. I would think the first few questions were to see if his brain was even functioning at a cognitive level.

So now someone says....well, he was in such poor condition........Does the reading of his Miranda rights even hold up??

But that's not the point....he is not the best evidence of his crime...It's not like everyone has bomb making components and pressure cookers in their residence and car, bullet holes in their bodies...

36 posted on 04/24/2013 1:01:50 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

“Damn right it will hold up in court.”

I guess you don’t know much about the 6th Amendment.

There is a little important clause in the 6th Amendment that you should want the court to adhere to if you ever find yourself in a criminal prosecution.


37 posted on 04/24/2013 1:07:01 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

For those that just like to make stuff up....

You might want to read the SCOTUS cased based on a Massachusetts appeal

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-591.ZS.html

“Under Crawford, a witness’s testimony against a defendant is inadmissible unless the witness appears at trial or, if the witness is unavailable, the defendant had a prior opportunity for cross-examination. 541 U. S., at 54.”


38 posted on 04/24/2013 1:13:02 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Thanks for link...noteworthy about the cell phone tracking them....especially after bellowing off they were the bombers on their way to New York...they didn't realize the hostage left his cell phone in the car....

‘His, (the hostage) cell phone was still in the car’ and police were able to determine its location by pinging signal to it....The car was tracked to Watertown where after a fierce gun=battle Tamberland was captured.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313132/Did-hear-Boston-Marathon-explosion-I-did-Chilling-words-bomber-carjacking-victim-said-spared-wasnt-American.html#ixzz2RPigwfVi
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39 posted on 04/24/2013 1:19:00 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Too dang funny...undone by a hostage cell phone.


40 posted on 04/24/2013 1:21:53 PM PDT by RummyChick
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