Skip to comments.Will the Amnesty Bill Lead to Gun Confiscation in 2035?
Posted on 04/26/2013 12:49:18 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
Turning America "blue" could lead to California-style gun control
"Immigration reform could be a bonanza for Democrats [and] cripple Republican prospects in many states they now win easily." Politico, April 22, 2013
In 1984, California was sufficiently conservative so that it cast its electoral votes for President Ronald Reagan. It was not fiercely pro-gun, but, then again, it wasn't New York.
But, in 1986, Reagan signed an immigration amnesty bill, called Simpson-Mazzoli. The bill was small compared to the current amnesty bill. Three million illegals benefited.
But that was enough to change California from a sometimes "swing state" to a state almost wholly controlled by Leftists. Within 20 years and continuing to this day California couldn't pass enough gun bans, gun registration, ammunition limits, and ammunition registration.
So it is with some concern that Chuck Schumers amnesty bill (S. 744) which is currently on the table would cover 11,000,000 to 20,000,000 illegal aliens four to seven times the size of the Simpson-Mazzoli bill.
We predict that, if the bill is passed, by 2035, the American electorate will have changed so fundamentally that California-style gun control could become a very real possibility in this country!
We know you're tired. We have just fought a hard-fought battle over explicit gun control in the Senate a battle which we won.
But it does strike us as interesting that the same gun control crazies who pushed gun control want to slam immigration amnesty through the Senate quickly so they can redirect their fire against us again.
Who are the chief architects of forging a more anti-gun electorate? Well, the chief sponsor of S. 744 is Chuck Schumer, and he is joined by other Second Amendment haters such as Dick Durbin (D-IL), Bob Menendez (D-NJ) and compromiser John McCain (R-AZ).
Over the next week or so, we'll let you in on some of the anti-gun specifics of Schumer's "amnesty bill," as its correctly dubbed. But for starters, the bill would push us towards a biometric ID card, which is something that GOA has opposed for years given that a de facto National ID poses a huge threat to gun owners privacy.
But then theres the fact that Schumers amnesty bill requires the government to give its okay in a Brady Gun Check-type procedure before you could get a private job in America (section 3(c)(2)(A)(iii)). Does anyone not see why this might be a problem?
We've just gone through excruciating pain to stop the expansion of Brady Checks for guns. Now we turn around and the same parties who were pushing that are now pushing Brady Checks for private jobs.
Its ironic that those pushing for background checks are adamantly against IDs for voting because that would disenfranchise the elderly, the poor, and minorities. Hmm, so they do understand that background checks as a prior restraint are a fundamentally flawed concept?
But this is where the real fun starts. You feed the potential employees info into a government database and, according to Senator Durbin, "up pops a picture." And, says Durbin, "if that picture doesn't match [the one on your ID], you may not be employed."
The Brady Check deals with a list of names which is in the millions. It deals only with things like names and social security numbers, not pictures. Yet it gives false negatives 8% of the time. And if youre one of those 8% who are illegally denied a gun, the FBIs response, more often than not, is So sue us. If this werent bad enough, the system breaks down for days at a time normally the times when the most people need it.
Do we really want to expand this flawed concept to other areas of our lives?
If this weren't bad enough, we know that, once the government has to give its approval before you can do something, its an almost iron-clad guarantee that it will exercise that power in a political manner. Under the Brady Check system, 165,000 law-abiding honorable veterans have lost their gun rights, not because they have done anything wrong, but because they sought counseling from the VA on the basis of a traumatic experience in the military.
Watching Schumer explain on the Senate floor why those veterans should lose their constitutional rights without any court order while he vigilantly defends due process for foreign terrorists is like watching a dung beetle drag its prey back to its lair.
So we know 165,000 non-politically correct veterans lost their gun rights under Brady Checks. Who will become politically incorrect unemployable non-persons under Brady Checks for Jobs?
Now, one would think that the fact that one million people in Boston were put under house arrest last week because our current immigration system allowed two asylum-seekers from terrorist-filled Chechnya to become legal residents and, in one case, a citizen of our country, will put the skids on the "inevitability" of Schumers amnesty bill. After all, gun control was "inevitable" too.
But the bottom line is this: Just as we saw the gun ramifications of ObamaCare, we will also see the problems with a bill that alters the electorate in such a way that the Second Amendment will cease to exist. In doing so, we will need to make sure that we dont have most of our guns registered or confiscated in 2035 because short-sighted politicians listened to MSNBC and turned our country blue.
But we will also make sure that we do not take bad gun law and turn it into bad employment law.
that is of course presuming that the country will still be around in 2035
Reason 1,232 to oppose making 11 33 Million new Democrats .
The country will be disintegrated by then, if amnesty goes through. I’m 56 now and my hope is I’ll be dead by the time that comes to pass.
“2035, what an optimist!”
Exactly...2014 is closer to reality.
By then my grandsons will be able to give them their weapons bullets first.Hopefully we will have eradicated Democrats by then like cutting Cancer out of a sick body!
What is to stop them from pulling a Brady Act 2?
It was Thanksgiving weekend, most of congress had gone home. 4 senators called a quorum and voted in the bill. Mark Hatfield and Bob Dole were the two Rs. And what do the republicans do about that outrage???? They NOMINATE DOLE FOR PRESIDENT!!
Thats when I quit the GOP.
[snip]As Vice President Al Gore and Mark O. Hatfield, an Oregon Republican who supported the bill, watched, the two Senate leaders, Bob Dole of Kansas and George J. Mitchell of Maine, pronounced the measure adopted by unanimous consent. That is a parliamentary device allowing the leaders to pass the legislation themselves by voice vote after ascertaining that no senator would object.
All this and more shall unfold. We are in early, innocent innings. It’s Berlin in 1932, and our name is Emmanuel Goldstein.
The NRA should come out against the amnesty as well. There are a lot of quotes on illegal aliens by Wayne Lapierre. It’s a powergrab by democrats and will mean future gun control.
A lot of NRA members on the border and in law enforcement are going to be victimized by the future flow and current illegal aliens. The Rancher Rob Krentz was an NRA member who was murdered in Arizona.