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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree we have the tools. We just don’t have the foot soldiers willing to do the grunt work. Lots of folks, at FRee Republic and other conservative sites spend jillions of man-hours writing and talking to one another.

Turn those man-hours into citizen journalism (similar to the Breitbart model), and we have a viable system.


135 posted on 04/27/2013 2:08:03 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

People do do that. And are often mocked by their own side for it. But yes, it needs to be done more.


140 posted on 04/27/2013 2:28:17 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: abb

A prime example of that citizen journalism is butteredzillion who has done more than any MSM outlet by orders of magnitude on the Birther issue. Notice the crap thrown by supposed conservatives at (her I believe).

All solid and doced info. And mocked for it by her own team.

Not sure of her exact username spelling so I can’t ping her to the thread.


142 posted on 04/27/2013 2:33:39 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: abb

The trouble is establishing credibility. My son’s HS English teacher required them to use database search engines that weeded out blogs, for instance. I checked to see if those databases had any information about Obama’s eligibility problem, and all it had (that I could find) were some of the news articles about the Cold Case Posse’s first press conference - articles in which no evidence was cited and most of the story was about Sheriff Joe being investigated by Eric Holder (and wrongly implying that the CCP was in retaliation when in fact the CCP’s investigation PRECEDED Holder’s investigation of Arpaio so that if retaliation was being done it was being done by Holder, not Arpaio). None of the eligibility cases showed up in searches.

These 3 search engines - which the teacher said are required for use by colleges as well, which is why she didn’t balk at the censorship of it - censored out anything not done by professional “journalists” who are supposedly trustworthy because they have degrees.

Using your real name gives a degree of accountability that enhances credibility, but it’s hard on family members. Several of the researchers I’ve worked with are women who were trying to keep their involvement hidden from their husbands because their husbands were either apathetic about “politics” or afraid the families would be endangered. There is a reason the objector in the KS ballot objection dropped the objection once the national media reported on the issue: the threats to his family were intense.

Glenn Beck can speak because he’s got protection for himself and his family. He left Fox because Fox would not provide protection for his secretary. What kind of security can I provide for myself and my family? The long and short of it is that we’ve got the mafia running the media AND law enforcement (as evidenced by the Breitbart and Cormier deaths, for instance) and until we get the rule of law it is very dangerous for citizen investigators. Think also of the SWAT raids called in by the flaming homos on various internet reporters. Those are genuinely life-threatening situations and can be done at the drop of a hat by any enemy willing to go there (and our enemies are very willing to go there). As long as we pose no real threat (because what we’re doing can’t translate into actual arrests or judicial rulings, for instance) they can battle us by calling us crazy, trying to diminish our credibility, and sending us on wild goosechases. But when we get anywhere near the ability to make arrests or have a legal result.... that’s when the threats take over. If the threats aren’t enough, then stuff like Breitbart’s death and Rush Limbaugh’s received package referring to 2 famous assassination (both on the same day as the Cold Case Posse’s first presser) happen.

The courts pretend that the “little people” like me have nothing vested in curtailing the gang operations within our government, media, and law enforcement (we have no “standing” so it’s none of our business...) but that’s just not true. When the mob is in control and there is no rule of law, we ALL suffer the consequences.


262 posted on 04/27/2013 10:13:01 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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