Posted on 04/27/2013 9:45:20 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
So this is what Dzhokhar meant when he said they were headed to Manhattan to “party.”
The surviving Boston Marathon bombing suspect has told investigators that he and his brother discussed detonating the rest of their explosives in Times Square, senior law enforcement officials told NBC News on Thursday.
The surviving suspect, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, initially told investigators that they planned to go to New York to party after the Boston attack, one source said. The New York police commissioner also gave this account Wednesday.
Under subsequent questioning, the officials said, Tsarnaev said that the brothers had discussed a follow-up attack on Times Square.
The officials cautioned that the idea was undeveloped. One senior official described the plan as “aspirational at most.”
Not sure what “aspirational” means in this context. They had working bombs on them when the cops caught up to them. If they had left Boston sooner, the only thing stopping them from executing the plan was the NYPD’s ability to spot something fishy before the feds had publicly identified them. By “aspirational,” I think all NBC’s sources are saying is that the Tsarnaevs hadn’t fully committed to doing it, or doing it in Times Square specifically, yet. If they’d made it, though, I wonder if their M.O. would have been different. One of the small but important flaws in their marathon plan was putting the bombs on the ground, which kept the blast low and produced lots of severed legs but no severed heads. Would they have learned from that and placed the bombs higher next time to maximize fatalities? Another thing: When did Dzhokhar tell the cops that they were thinking about bombing Times Square? Sounds like new information, but according to the AP and Fox News, he supposedly clammed up after that magistrate gave him the Miranda warnings. Maybe he’s talking again.
While you mull that, enjoy mama Tsarnaev wondering if maybe the blood on the sidewalk at the marathon was paint. Apparently she saw a video to that effect, so you know there must be something to it. Rest assured, Tsarnaev sympathizers will try to spin this away as a grieving mother being unable to face painful truths about her sons, but I’d be more sympathetic to that explanation if I hadn’t read stuff like this:
The mother of Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev knew as early as 2011 that her son had been radicalized and sent text messages to family in Russia suggesting he was willing to die for Islam, the FBI told lawmakers this week according to two officials with knowledge of the Capitol Hill briefing.
That’ll be spun away too as evidence only that Tamerlan was willing to go to Chechnya and fight the Russians, not that he was willing to blow up eight-year-olds here, but that’s goofy. Just this morning, the BBC reported that European intelligence is biting its fingernails over hundreds of native-born Muslims heading off to Syria to fight. What they learn there, ideologically and technologically, comes back home with them. If I had to bet, I’d bet that it was mama Tsarnaev’s texts that were intercepted by Russian intel and that spurred them to contact the FBI initially about Tamerlan in 2011. Why the feds didn’t take that more seriously, I still don’t understand. Neither do members of Congress.
Watch the second clip below too of the mother blaming “America” for taking her sons from her. America took them in, gave them an education, gave them welfare, gave her youngest son scholarship money, and yet here we are. “Why did they kill him? Why did they have to kill him? They got him alive. He was in their hands,” she said at her press conference. As a rebuttal to that, I’ll leave you with this:
Mike Doucette, 27, a chimney sweep who lives on the street, described seeing one brother shot and fall to the ground. He was still moving when the other brother went “screaming up the street” in the S.U.V.
“I yelled to the cops, ‘Watch out!’ ” Mr. Doucette said in an interview. But the car hit the wounded brother, he said, and “his body was tumbling underneath.”
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Videos at the web site.
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There was a story about the younger brother..at a prom date..backing his car at high speed up a street.
Boston Bombing Ping!
Thanks Ernest for the ping!
Was this off limits to Barry’s jokes at the dinner?
BUMP
“Rest assured, Tsarnaev sympathizers will try to spin this away as a grieving mother being unable to face painful truths about her sons...”
This was exactly what that dolt O’Reilly did last week with 2 female therapists yammering about how this Mother couldn’t face the truth. So ridiculous, I would be far more interested in listening to that blow hard if he had the people who study and understand islam on there explaining what we already know - might have reached a few clueless voters.
This is the first I’ve read that there was a chimney sweep guy who witnessed the brother running over the other...
BOR has the worst open source research assistants in the biz...LOL! They alway get it wrong! It is really pathetic. And then he uses their bad research to spout stats, etc. to clueless guests...lol.
Boston Ping List!
(Newly added FReepers)
Exactly my point! Why bullsh** about a ‘parent’ in denial over their kids death - that terrorist knew her terrorists kids were going to give it all up for allah -
what a pathetic attempt to insult our intelligence with this sob story that is false.
I need to read it slowly, so I can properly digest.
While I'm at it, I would like to leave you with a gift that also requires spiritual discernment. Please contact me if you are interested in seeing more truth. Amen.
Police Say The Naked Man Arrested In Boston Was Not Tamerlan Tsarnaev
Both his nutty parents and his straight up Uncle say they are 100% certain this video is Tamerlan. Look at any of the pictures we have of Tamerlan, we can all agree that his most significant feature is his nose. Now, look at the crystall clear video images. This naked man is obviously Tamerlan beyond any reasonable doubt.
On Thursday night while police were hunting in Watertown, Mass. for bombing suspects Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, at one point they arrested a naked man who looks a lot like Tamerlan.
Police say the naked man is not Tamerlan, despite various conspiracy theories going around the Internet.
According to the official account, Tamerlan died after a shootout with cops, riddled with bullets and shrapnel before being run over by his brother who was fleeing the scene in an SUV.
Take a look: I dare you!
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-naked-man-mystery-role-in-boston-2013-4#ixzz2RnIPaCad
FBI
The Watertown police department got back to us via email just to say that the naked man was not Tamerlan Tsarnaev (pictured on right and in high-res here).
The shootout with the Tsarnaev brothers occurred on Laurel Street. The journalist interviewed in this video describes naked man's capture near Nichols and Dexter, literally down the street from the shootout.
Naked man was apparently stripped, questioned, clothed, questioned some more, and reportedly let go. It's likely police stripped him because they were under citywide bomb threat and wanted to make sure he didn't have a suicide vest, but the police did not comment on that.
Needless to say, Business Insider is interested to hear Naked Man's personal story — send any tips to tips@businessinsider.com.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-naked-man-mystery-role-in-boston-2013-4#ixzz2RnIPaCad
Have any of you viewed the CNN footage of a Crisis Actor that was interviewed at the bombing and four days later as a witness to the Watertown shootout. If you're still with me, I would be happy to PM you.
FReepers Up!
Saturday, 27. April 2013 by Sibel Edmonds
Graham Fuller: Edmonds’ State Secrets Privilege, FBI Gladio-B Target, Handler-Sponsor of Turkey’s Imam Gulen
A major break in the Boston Terror CIA Connection took place last night when I came across a post outing CIA Operative Graham Fuller as the father of the woman married to Boston terror suspect’s infamous uncle Ruslan Tsarni.
Further confirmation of this bombshell was received via mainstream reporter Laura Rozen here. Let me first provide a few excerpts from the original reporting site (a real alternative media):
Boston Bombers’ Uncle Married Daughter of Top CIA Official
The uncle of the two suspected Boston bombers in last week’s attack, Ruslan Tsarni, was married to the daughter of former top CIA official Graham Fuller . Ruslan Tsarni married the daughter of former top CIA official Graham Fuller, who spent 20 years as operations officer in Turkey, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Hong Kong.
In 1982 Fuller was appointed the National Intelligence Officer for Near East and South Asia at the CIA, and in 1986, under Ronald Reagan, he became the Vice-Chairman of the National Intelligence Council, with overall responsibility for national level strategic forecasting. …
Now, take a look at the most explosive aspect of this original report on Graham Fuller’s outing in the CIA Boston Terror Connection [All Emphasis Mine]:
On a more ominous note, Graham Fuller was listed as one of the American Deep State rogues on Sibel Edmonds’ State SecretsPrivilege Gallery,. Edmonds explained it featured subjects of FBI investigations she became aware of during her time as an FBI translator.
Criminal activities were being protected by claims of State Secrets, she asserted. After Attorney General John Ashcroft went all the way to the Supreme Court to muzzle her under a little-used doctrine of State Secrets, she put up twenty-one photos, with no names. One of them was Graham Fuller. …
I presented CIA’s Graham Fuller as one of the top culprits in my State Secrets Privilege Case when the government invoked the State Secrets Privilege and several additional gag orders to cover up the FBI’s investigations and files pertaining to CIA-NATO terror operations in Central Asia & the Caucasus since the mid-1990s.
Guess what? I provided this information to the US media long before it became public in 2008 via my website Not a single media outlet (including quasi and pseudo ones) was willing to touch this. And this, despite of all the gag orders, state secrets privilege invocations, congressional gag orders … you name it. I could name more than a dozen publications that said: ‘no way.’
Not only that. I have been covering one of the main CIA operation figures in Central Asia & the Caucasus-Imam Fethullah Gulen, and this Turkish Imam’s relationship and official Connections to CIA’s Graham Fuller. I’ve been doing this since 2009. Let me provide you with a few explosive examples and excerpts.
Graham Fuller, Crisis Actor Filmed Twice By CNN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbqVqI1cWXc Perhaps budgetary restraints brought on by the Sequester forced CIA Ops Director Graham Fuller to utilize this Crisis Actor at the Boston Bombing and in Watertown where the alleged bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev Attempted to Surrender.
Watch these two videos and make up your mind before the MSM and the Regime closes the historical record forever.
Saturday, 27. April 2013 by Sibel Edmonds
Graham Fuller: Edmonds’ State Secrets Privilege, FBI Gladio-B Target, Handler-Sponsor of Turkey’s Imam Gulen
A major break in the Boston Terror CIA Connection took place last night when I came across a post outing CIA Operative Graham Fuller as the father of the woman married to Boston terror suspect’s infamous uncle Ruslan Tsarni.
Further confirmation of this bombshell was received via mainstream reporter Laura Rozen here. Let me first provide a few excerpts from the original reporting site (a real alternative media):
Boston Bombers’ Uncle Married Daughter of Top CIA Official
The uncle of the two suspected Boston bombers in last week’s attack, Ruslan Tsarni, was married to the daughter of former top CIA official Graham Fuller . Ruslan Tsarni married the daughter of former top CIA official Graham Fuller, who spent 20 years as operations officer in Turkey, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Hong Kong.
In 1982 Fuller was appointed the National Intelligence Officer for Near East and South Asia at the CIA, and in 1986, under Ronald Reagan, he became the Vice-Chairman of the National Intelligence Council, with overall responsibility for national level strategic forecasting. …
Now, take a look at the most explosive aspect of this original report on Graham Fuller’s outing in the CIA Boston Terror Connection [All Emphasis Mine]:
On a more ominous note, Graham Fuller was listed as one of the American Deep State rogues on Sibel Edmonds’ State SecretsPrivilege Gallery,. Edmonds explained it featured subjects of FBI investigations she became aware of during her time as an FBI translator.
Criminal activities were being protected by claims of State Secrets, she asserted. After Attorney General John Ashcroft went all the way to the Supreme Court to muzzle her under a little-used doctrine of State Secrets, she put up twenty-one photos, with no names. One of them was Graham Fuller. …
I presented CIA’s Graham Fuller as one of the top culprits in my State Secrets Privilege Case when the government invoked the State Secrets Privilege and several additional gag orders to cover up the FBI’s investigations and files pertaining to CIA-NATO terror operations in Central Asia & the Caucasus since the mid-1990s.
Guess what? I provided this information to the US media long before it became public in 2008 via my website Not a single media outlet (including quasi and pseudo ones) was willing to touch this. And this, despite of all the gag orders, state secrets privilege invocations, congressional gag orders … you name it. I could name more than a dozen publications that said: ‘no way.’
Not only that. I have been covering one of the main CIA operation figures in Central Asia & the Caucasus-Imam Fethullah Gulen, and this Turkish Imam’s relationship and official Connections to CIA’s Graham Fuller. I’ve been doing this since 2009. Let me provide you with a few explosive examples and excerpts.
Graham Fuller, Crisis Actor Filmed Twice By CNN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbqVqI1cWXc Perhaps budgetary restraints brought on by the Sequester forced CIA Ops Director Graham Fuller to utilize this Crisis Actor at the Boston Bombing and in Watertown where the alleged bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev Attempted to Surrender.
Watch these two videos and make up your mind before the MSM and the Regime closes the historical record forever.
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