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California Democrats Move to Allow Non-Citizens on Jury
USBC News ^ | 2013, 04,27 | USBC News Wire

Posted on 04/28/2013 8:41:21 AM PDT by swampthang77

USBC News Wire. Sacramento, California- A California Democratic Party politician, Bob Wieckowski, is pushing a controversial bill which would allow non-citizens to judge American citizens by serving on juries in California.

The bill, which is likely to be struck down by courts as unconstitutional, has already passed the California assembly 45-25 supported by the Democratic Party and liberal Republicans. The bill will now move on to the California Senate.

Critics have questioned the rationale behind such a bill...

(Excerpt) Read more at usbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; illegalaliens; illegalsjury; jury; wieckowski
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To: libertymaker

What McCarthy and the Birchers warned us about 50 to 60 years agoo is happening in waves even more extreme than they imagined and at an exponentional rate.


21 posted on 04/28/2013 9:00:54 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Oldexpat

I quit serving on juries. I get a doc excuse now. The last couple of juries I was on (one an attempted murder case)I got sick of the stupid liberal azz teachers that are always on the jury. They make the decision harder and last a heckuva lot longer than it should. They cannot follow jury instructions or think rationally.


22 posted on 04/28/2013 9:03:07 AM PDT by sheana
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To: swampthang77
How is this even being considered.

The ‘Why’ is that they (Liberals) wish to erase all differences between citizens and non-citizens.

The IRA did not say we are killing in the name of God. The Muslim terrorist say “There is only one god Allah” as they kill.

The ‘How’ is an interesting question.

I don’t know the process o jury selection in California but in Ohio the jury pool is selected from registered voters. In California perhaps they select from Licensed Drivers maybe?

23 posted on 04/28/2013 9:05:21 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: swampthang77

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t jury duty selections drawn from the voter rolls? Kinda proves the point that illegals are voting out there.


24 posted on 04/28/2013 9:10:14 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: MachIV

“Sort of like the Cloward Pivens approach to intentionally destroying the country.”

One of the reasons for the miracle of the US was it becoming a melting pot. Immigrants love for liberty and equality of opportunity superseded their ethnic and religious identities. They wanted to be Americans, not Germans, Irish, Swedish, English, Polish, or Italian.

Since the 1960’s the progressives in government and academia have done everything possible to destroy the concept of the melting pot. Through affirmative action and government programs they have emphasized racial, ethnic, and religious differences. Today people identify themselves by their gender, their race, their sexual orientation, or their religion. The concept of being a freedom loving American is virtually gone. The concept of equality of opportunity has been totally destroyed with government now taking the role of deciding winners and losers.

The new immigration policy, with the amnesty and “pathway to citizenship” to follow will destroy what is left of the concept of national identity. We will make somewhere between 10 and 20 million people citizens who entered the country illegally and who will receive full benefits of citizenship without any responsibility. Why would someone who broke the law to become a beneficiary of our welfare state feel any obligation to follow other laws or be a responsible citizen? If we allow them to hold dual citizenship (we likely will), they will feed at our table while maintaining loyalty to another nation. The value of American citizenship will be reduced to eligibility for social welfare benefits.


25 posted on 04/28/2013 9:13:14 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: pepsionice

If it wasn’t so sad it would be hilarious!


26 posted on 04/28/2013 9:14:41 AM PDT by swampthang77
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To: peteyd
The 3 rd time she decided she wasn’t going.

What she really wants is not to serve.

So next time she should show up with a copy of on of Rush Limbaugh’s or some other well know (hated) conservative writer. Read it will waiting for the lawyers to go through the selection.

Chances are good the defense will eliminate her from the jury.

Of course living in SF she may have to endure dirty looks and evil comments from other jurors. It may be best to carry the book in her handbag and not get it out until in the court room and put it back before leaving.

27 posted on 04/28/2013 9:17:35 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: EEGator
100%... and i guess that's what they think their peers are
28 posted on 04/28/2013 9:17:55 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: swampthang77

Every damned “reacharound” these thugs can come up with may well be enacted into law unless the people with whom the government is at war resist. This is what it is now. Government is at war with its own people.


29 posted on 04/28/2013 9:19:22 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: swampthang77

APPEAL...AFTER APPEAL...AFTER APPEAL...AFTER APPEAL.In the *Federal* courts,of course,California courts and judges make North Korean ones look fair by comparison.


30 posted on 04/28/2013 9:25:43 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: swampthang77

SECESSION IS THE ONLY ANSWER FOLKS!


31 posted on 04/28/2013 9:27:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Soul of the South
If we allow them to hold dual citizenship (we likely will), they will feed at our table while maintaining loyalty to another nation.

I am pretty sure we already do. By judicial fiat if I am not mistaken.

32 posted on 04/28/2013 9:27:24 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Our problem is America is being sold out.

BOTH PARTIES are sending American manufacturing overseas. While keeping our own markets 100% open to all foreign competitors.

Nobody in either party, is advocating for American workers.

We are getting further, and further off-track.


33 posted on 04/28/2013 9:31:26 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Chode

“Facts are stubborn things.”

John Adams


34 posted on 04/28/2013 9:34:01 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Soul of the South

Just a matter of time till I get out of this looney bin.


35 posted on 04/28/2013 9:36:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: swampthang77

I wonder what the Liberal’s reaction will be when:

1. California votes to secede from the Union and either a) rejoin Mexico or b) become its own country (Aztlan).
2. About a week later, they will nationalize all the property owned by Caucausians.


36 posted on 04/28/2013 9:40:26 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: swampthang77

Yes we are that far gone, this is the political evil wrought by illegal immigration, liberals and of course democrats.


37 posted on 04/28/2013 9:41:34 AM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Oldexpat
Just because I wear my miniature cloisonne military ribbons on my suit lapel and report with a military “High and Tight” hair cut, Defense Lawyers usually cast me off any jury.

Gee..., I wonder why? lol

38 posted on 04/28/2013 9:42:06 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: swampthang77
Critics have questioned the rationale behind such a bill

"Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada". Very simple.

Trying to use reason to figure it out is a waste of energy.

39 posted on 04/28/2013 9:44:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: swampthang77

Could this possibly be legal? Jury of peers or jury of and by the world?


40 posted on 04/28/2013 9:48:43 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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