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Is Capitalism Killing Our Morals and Economy?
Townhall.com ^ | April 28, 2013 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 04/28/2013 10:12:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

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41 posted on 04/28/2013 4:09:40 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: GeronL; Kaslin

Free trade is a human right.

Crony capitalism is tyranny
(intervention into an individual’s free affairs).


42 posted on 04/28/2013 5:28:03 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: Sherman Logan

Re: “The total wealth of the world is around $1 quadrillion.”

Divided by 7 billion people.....

That’s $140,000 in assets per person, excluding billionaires.

Can I cash out my share?


43 posted on 04/28/2013 5:43:40 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Kaslin

Our markets and businesses are HEAVILY interfered with by government. We barely have a market much less calling it a “Free market”.


44 posted on 04/28/2013 5:45:30 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Sherman Logan
"...the total wealth of the world is around $1 quadrillion."

Please fill us in as to whether you just made that up or you actually have some source to back it up.  Reason I ask is that other sources (Univ Calif. Santa Cruz, Wikipedia, United Nations) seem to hover around a tenth that number.

45 posted on 04/28/2013 6:45:02 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: cynwoody
"Even if your trading partner dumps rocks into his harbor to obstruct arriving cargo ships, you do not make yourself better off by dumping rocks into your own harbor."

My understanding is that the reasoning is more precisely that it's not fair for foreign governments to make their people pay high import taxes, and that we should get to pay high import taxes to our federal gov't too. 

 

OK, so I know it's crazy, but it's what I'm getting from the protectionist crowd.

46 posted on 04/28/2013 6:53:18 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Kaslin
Is Capitalism Killing Our Morals and Economy?

No...

Our Morals are Killing Our Capitalism and Economy.

47 posted on 04/29/2013 4:47:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
The Left has been blaming Capitalism for any and all economic problems since the 1930's. See the lower left corner of this cartoon.


48 posted on 04/29/2013 4:53:06 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: expat_panama
If all the water, in all the world - lakes, seas, ponds and swimming pools - were connected together with pipes and siphons; then, over time; the level would equalize.

The same will happen with the money (value?) supply.

Unless someone shuts a valve to 'protect' their high level water source to keep it from flowing out, then it will drain away.

Likewise, if someone shuts the value on a low supply, then none will flow in.

However; if the valve controlling people decide to put pumps in place of valves (tariffs to resist outflow or artificially set low prices to suck inflow) then all bets are off.

49 posted on 04/29/2013 4:55:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
...tariffs to resist outflow or artificially set low prices to suck inflow...

A lot of people have this image of world trade where one nation can get lots of money while others lose it, but it don't work that way.  In real life we may imagine that we're buying our coffee and chocolate from foreigners with dollars, but what they do is use those dollars to buy stuff from us. 

They don't keep dollars because they use their own foreign money.  Payments always balance.

50 posted on 04/29/2013 5:36:35 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Elsie

“Capitalism”, ie free markets based on private property,
extends naturally from the Law as given by the God of Moses.

Other economic and political systems, ie, Marxism & all forms of collectivism, extend naturally from the “alterative truth” offered up by the serpent in Genesis 3. “You will be as gods, knowing good and evil”.


51 posted on 04/29/2013 5:39:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cynwoody
As Joan Robinson said, making the case for unilateral free trade, "Even if your trading partner dumps rocks into his harbor to obstruct arriving cargo ships, you do not make yourself better off by dumping rocks into your own harbor."

Trade wars are indeed just that - wars, some have stomach to fight wars, some don't. You and Joan fall into the latter category.

52 posted on 04/29/2013 6:22:51 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: expat_panama
OK, so I know it's crazy, but it's what I'm getting from the protectionist crowd.

Clearly our trade policies of the last 30 years have been devastating. So keep defending the indefensible.

PS: I don't think much of ex-pat "advice". You left our playing field,so get involved there.

53 posted on 04/29/2013 6:26:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
it's what I'm getting from the protectionist crowd.

Clearly our trade policies of the last 30 years have been devastating.

Yeah that too --everything's terrible-- but that thing about America being worse off since Reagan took office is what protectionists are against and not what they're for.  What they're in favor of is they want tax hikes and they want the higher taxes when ever they see foreigners raising their taxes.

54 posted on 04/29/2013 6:51:25 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

A tariff and a NRST would be better than an income tax.


55 posted on 04/29/2013 7:15:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
The question being better for what.

Taxes do one of two things, it's either revenue or control  For revenue we want more and more of the thing being taxed so the gov't gets lots of money.  Limit or control taxes don't bring in money because they're meant to kill what ever they're taxing.

The goal of import taxes is expanding state control of the economy by ending cross border trade.  The idea of no more foreign trade means no more import tax revenue.

56 posted on 04/29/2013 8:08:38 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

George Washington was a protectionist.


57 posted on 04/29/2013 8:34:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I agree trade with China is a joke. However, my real point was there never has been and never will be “Free Trade.” Every business immediately seeks a monopoly even to the point of enlisting the help of a King, President or petty Parliment. Why do you think the politicians gave business Patents and copywrite, a monopoly if you please. Look at the price of a new drug compared to the price of the same drug as a generic.


58 posted on 04/29/2013 8:41:38 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Those drug patents have a finite shelf life, and cover the costs of development. Having said that, once dev costs have been documented covered, said drug should go generic.


59 posted on 04/29/2013 8:48:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

A cost analysis is not the point of my post. The point being GOVERNMENT gives a monopoly to a private person, firm or entity. This has always been the case. Indeed the settlement of many of the early American colonies was by corporations granted a monopoly by the English king.


60 posted on 04/29/2013 9:12:00 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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