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To: cripplecreek
Looks like an awfully steep take off.

It was way too steep for a takeoff - you might be able to pull off a steep takeoff like that in an empty aircraft, but just from that video, it looks like a stall to me, and specifically like the cargo shifted rapidly. Cargo shifting the center of gravity can do that, and apparently it had vehicles, which could shift rapidly on takeoff if one broke free and slammed into another one.

T&P to t he family, whoever was at the controls did one helluva job trying to recover. He looked to be doing everything he could to recover and might have pulled it off if he had more altitude. I couldn't imagine facing such a situation.
63 posted on 04/30/2013 4:00:57 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
From the Loadstar

http://theloadstar.co.uk/breaking-news-national-air-cargo-crash-at-bagram/

Scott says: April 29, 2013 at 2:55 pm

I witnessed this crash today and there was no Taliban involvement. I can tell you this for sure – the 747 took off and commenced a quite steep climb out, not unusual for here, then one of two things happened. In my opinion either the strong head wind or a micro up burst caused it to pitch upward at what looked to be at least 85deg. Nose up or the cargo shifted to the rear and caused it to nose up. It then did what all swept wing aircraft do in a stall and pitched left at about 1200 Ft AGL, then it seemed like the pilot tried to correct and it pitched right and headed for the ground just before impact. It looked like it had flattened out to nearly level but had very little or no forward speed – what followed was the ground shook, followed by a large ball of fire and a huge black cloud of smoke. I truly wish I had not seen this, but I did, and my prayers and thoughts go out to all involved – both on board and the family and loved ones of the crew and passengers.

64 posted on 04/30/2013 4:25:19 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: af_vet_rr

Looks like all but one of these guys were from here in Michigan.

Pilots Brad Hasler of Trenton, Mich. and Jeremy Lipka of Brooklyn, Mich.; First Officer Rinku Summan of Canton, Mich.; loadmaster Michael Sheets of Ypsilanti, Mich.; First Officer Jamie Brokaw of Monroe, Mich.; and maintenance crew Gary Stockdale of Romulus, Mich. and Timothy Garrett of Louisville, Ky.

http://www.annarbor.com/news/ypsilanti/ypsilanti-man-among-7-killed-in-afghan-crash/


77 posted on 04/30/2013 5:56:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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