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GOP bill would force federal workers onto health-care exchanges
The Washington Post ^ | 4/30/13 | Josh Hicks

Posted on 04/30/2013 6:20:50 PM PDT by mdittmar

A new Republican House proposal would push federal workers off their employer-sponsored health plan and onto the insurance exchanges being established under the Affordable Care Act.

Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, introduced the bill Friday after talk on the Hill that Democrats were trying to exempt members of Congress and their staffs from a provision in current law that requires them to enroll in the exchanges in 2014.

Camp’s measure would extend that policy to all federal workers except active-duty military members and postal workers.

“If the Obamacare exchanges are good enough for the hardworking Americans and small businesses the law claims to help, then they should be good enough for the president, vice president, Congress and federal employees,” said Camp spokeswoman Sarah Swinehart.

Most employees who would be affected by the proposal are enrolled in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program.

Labor groups that represent federal workers oppose the Camp proposal.

“It seems to be a political gimmick to help lawmakers undo an amendment to the Affordable Care Act that was meant to be a poison pill,” said American Federation of Government Employees President J. David Cox. “Federal employees rely on FEHBP during their working lives and in retirement, and Congress should not play around with eliminating this crucial element of federal compensation to make a political point.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; federalworkers; obamacareexchanges
That's just "Mean Spirited";)
1 posted on 04/30/2013 6:20:50 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

“...except active-duty military members and postal workers...”
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What’s so special about the freaking post office?


2 posted on 04/30/2013 6:24:15 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: mdittmar

Personally I think it would be poetic justice. All of these Unions got their membership to vote for the dems that pushed it through so they should be required to live with what they wanted everyone else to be stuck with.


3 posted on 04/30/2013 6:25:20 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: mdittmar

Sauce for the goose....


4 posted on 04/30/2013 6:25:37 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Gosnell - Media ignores murder of thousands of UNDOCUMENTED humans - Democrats cheer)
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To: Repeal The 17th

“What’s so special about the freaking post office?”

They don’t want to pick a fight with these idiots, because they know that it’s just a matter of time before the USPS (at least as we know it now) is going to cease to exist.


5 posted on 04/30/2013 6:27:01 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Repeal The 17th
What’s so special about the freaking post office?

They have one tough union,I know,my Dad was President of a local;)

6 posted on 04/30/2013 6:28:04 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Everyone should have to endure their “fair share” of suffering. That goes for those foghorn buffoons on Capitol Hill too. Those bass turds wrote and passed this garbage, they should have to live with the consequences of their dumbass actions.


7 posted on 04/30/2013 6:28:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: mdittmar; All

Why does’t GOP simply say that the states have never delegated to the federal government via the Constitution the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for public healthcare purposes?


8 posted on 04/30/2013 6:31:02 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Repeal The 17th

Agree.
Shove it up their backside too.


9 posted on 04/30/2013 6:32:27 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: mdittmar
“It seems to be a political gimmick to help lawmakers undo an amendment to the Affordable Care Act that was meant to be a poison pill,”

So the AFGE President is on the record as admitting that there are poison pills in ObamaCare?

Even if this proposal goes nowhere, forcing him to make such an admission is an absolutely priceless outcome.
10 posted on 04/30/2013 6:34:41 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Amendment10

Say that to who?


11 posted on 04/30/2013 6:36:37 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Repeal The 17th

They go postal?
Also rarely deliver all your mail?


12 posted on 04/30/2013 6:38:13 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mdittmar; All

When is the GOP going to END OBAMACARE?

Playing peeing contests with Dems over ObamaCare...extending it to Illegal Aliens, Islamic Terrorists, and Federal Workers is not ENDING OBAMACARE

Wake up People


13 posted on 04/30/2013 6:39:53 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: mdittmar

Getting Obama elected: $1 billion.

Getting Obamacare passed: Months of propaganda and political strongarming against overwhelming negative public opinion.

Having to drink from the very punchbowl you placed the turd into: Priceless.


14 posted on 04/30/2013 6:42:04 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SeminoleCounty
When is the GOP going to END OBAMACARE

Don't hold your breath.

15 posted on 04/30/2013 6:42:39 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Amendment10

Because by doing so they’d invalidate 99% of laws on the books.

Not saying that’s a bad thing, just that it’ll never happen.


16 posted on 04/30/2013 6:43:18 PM PDT by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: SeminoleCounty; All

OBAMACARE is ended,no one is going to pay.


17 posted on 04/30/2013 6:45:03 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: SpaceBar
Getting Obama elected: $1 billion.
Getting Obamacare passed: Months of propaganda and political strongarming against overwhelming negative public opinion.
Having to drink from the very punchbowl you placed the turd into: Priceless.

yes!

18 posted on 04/30/2013 6:50:53 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: SeminoleCounty

End Obamacare? The GOP won’t even defund it. Remember all those campaign promises about defunding Obamacare once they got (re)elected? Not a peep out of ‘em now that they’re safely ensconced in the halls of power. Shameful.


19 posted on 04/30/2013 6:52:43 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: mdittmar
Ooohhhh, now I get it.

When Zero said that you can keep your health insurance if you like it, he was referring only to federal workers, not us peons.

20 posted on 04/30/2013 6:53:20 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: A CA Guy

About twice a year I get something in my mailbox that I don’t throw away. Otherwise it’s complete garbage.


21 posted on 04/30/2013 7:04:59 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Repeal The 17th
USPS can independently set up its own medical insurance system ~ plus, there's this law that was passed called the Postal Reorganization Act that guarantees that whatever benefit package is provided will be equal to or better than that originally provided by the federal government.

By eliminating the federal employees from the FEHB program USPS employees come out substantially ahead. Their jobs keep them physically fit.

The state exchange (or federal exchange) operations aren't designed to provide CHEAPER or LOWER COST insurance ~ they are designed to FORCE yout' and entrepreneurs into health insurance whether they need it or not. The insurance packages that will be available will be substantially more costly than the FEHB packages.

Guess who gets to pay the higher cost?

22 posted on 04/30/2013 7:06:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PeevedPatriot

They voted on a bill to abolish ObamaKKKare ~ they’ve done that several times. The Senate hasn’t taken up the bill.


23 posted on 04/30/2013 7:09:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
They voted on a bill to abolish ObamaKKKare

Yes although they know the senate won't do anything. The House has the purse strings and they consistently vote to fund obamacare. Bills that they know will do nothing don't impress me.

24 posted on 04/30/2013 7:17:00 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: PeevedPatriot
We keep going over this with you. Whether or not you are impressed, the fact is there are some long term funding processes the Democommies put in place that keep on ticking with or without a funding vote.

Why don't you figure out how we can destroy the Democrat majority in the Senate.

25 posted on 04/30/2013 7:21:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“...there’s this law that was passed called the Postal Reorganization Act...”
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What one congress gives, another congress can take away.


26 posted on 04/30/2013 7:44:06 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: muawiyah
Going over this with ME? Don't remember that. Having read the law myself (but not claiming superior understanding) and having stopped working in health care (in large part due to this hideous law) I am well aware of some of the long-term funding mechanisms contained in it. I'm also aware that the GOP could do more to defund it and to draw public attention to some of the problematic provisions that many people don't even know about yet.

I'm not convinced that a GOP majority in the senate would be much different. I'd rather see a conservative majority. GOP and conservative are no longer synonymous. Both parties are behaving like ruling elites and I'm fed up with it.

Make excuses for the GOP if you like. I'm not going to. This law has had a hugely negative impact on me in ways I don't feel compelled to share here. And because of the difficulty this law has made for me, I'm not inclined to excuse any elected official who claims to represent me but authorizes funding and engages in merely symbolic gestures for repeal. And--this irritates me as much as anything else--keeps silent when opportunities abound to call attention to some of the nasty things coming down the pike. These guys won't even TALK about it!

Putting on my best Mrs Slocombe voice: Weak as water, weak as water. And I am unanimous in that!

27 posted on 04/30/2013 7:45:52 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: mdittmar

Don’t push this federal retiree, covered by the FEHBP, into Obamacare. I didn’t vote for it or for Obama so why should I have to suffer.


28 posted on 04/30/2013 8:42:09 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: mdittmar
Lawmakers have also questioned whether congressional staffers would lose the retirement health benefits they qualify for after working for the government for 20 years.

Went to a meeting about my insurance plan that was to be supplementary to Medicare all paid for. I retired after 40 years and they think it may be a $50 month charge after 2014!!!

My hearings were due for replacement and I selected the TOP OF THE LINE $6k + next replacement may be a plastic funnel. I have very good insurance ... for now!

29 posted on 04/30/2013 8:47:49 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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Labor groups that represent federal workers oppose the Camp proposal.

These people are scumbags. "Silly peasants, don't you realize idiotic laws are only for you, not us elites....."

30 posted on 04/30/2013 8:51:21 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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Say that to who?

The RINO GOP has been as dishonest with everybody about the constitutionality of federal Obamacare as Democrats and Obama guard Fx News have been. So I'm angry that GOP is now merely pushing mandatory Obamacare as a threat for political gain.

31 posted on 04/30/2013 9:50:46 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: PeevedPatriot

If the GOP doesn’t have the seats it doesn’t get the votes. now maybe one of our elderly Senators, maybe mccain, could show up with a PLO dynamite belt or something and make a difference, but short of that, not likely the Senate is going to vote with the Republicans on anything.


32 posted on 05/01/2013 3:48:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Repeal The 17th

And, simultaneously create a 5th amendment situation ~ naw, some of us are too expensive to mess with.


33 posted on 05/01/2013 3:49:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mdittmar

>Federal employees rely on FEHBP during their working lives and in retirement, and Congress should not play around with eliminating this crucial element of federal compensation>

Ohhh, the specialness of certain people amazes me. How does this match up with:
GM salary employees rely on Health & Life Insurance during their working lives and in retirement, and Congress/GM should not play around with eliminating this crucial element of benefits . . .

Some people are just more special than others I guess.


34 posted on 05/01/2013 8:42:11 AM PDT by benasawin
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