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To: pinochet
America is too young a civilization, to be showing the signs of moral and cultural decadence that are associated with very old civilizations. An American Nero like Obama has arrived about 1000 years too early.

Maybe it's somehow tied to technical progress, American has seen more in it's 200+ years than the Roman empire did in a thousand years. Perhaps this has accelerated the birth and death cycle.

9 posted on 05/03/2013 8:57:13 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

Maybe it’s somehow tied to technical progress, American has seen more in it’s 200+ years than the Roman empire did in a thousand years. Perhaps this has accelerated the birth and death cycle.


Thing is, it’s not just America. It is western civilization that is on the cusp. Come to think of it, wasn’t that pretty much the role Rome was playing when it fell?


15 posted on 05/03/2013 9:01:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: apillar; Mr. Jeeves
Maybe it's somehow tied to technical progress, American has seen more in it's 200+ years than the Roman empire did in a thousand years. Perhaps this has accelerated the birth and death cycle.

I have a pet theory where when a civilization develops atomic weapons (or a reasonable similarity thereof), there is a race to make it into space and develop colonies to either survive a collapse at home or avert it. I do believe myself there could have been a technical civilization prior to ours, such as Atlantis, maybe more than once where they grew and grew and they became arrogant and cocky and then they fell.

I also believe in the 200 year rule where "empires" rise and fall. You had the British where they defeat3ed the French in 1763 in the French and Indian War (that started a few miles away from me, I'm in Pittsburgh) or if your European, the Seven Years War. That basically establish the British as an Empire. Go 200 years to 1963 and by then, they were a former shell of themselves losing their colonies left and right. The United States first test was the War of 1812, We did not win it technically but we did not lose, we held our own and could stand up at least. Go 200 years later to 2012 and well, that is now. If course you had variations of the 200 year rule, I think it took Rome 400 or 500 years to decay from the time they declared themselves an empire.

Also as Mr. Jeeves pointed out, we have global communications first with radio and now down to the internet as we progress over time. I remember in the 1960's, John Lennon said that "more people heard of the Beatles than Jesus Christ" (in His day). I took it differently since even in 1966, we had a huge worldwide network of mass communications, shortwave radio, early satellite communication, networks and so forth. I took it to mean that if Jesus had those same tools, getting the Word out would have been faster and easier.
32 posted on 05/03/2013 9:19:42 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: apillar

Instantaneous communications with media spin and attempts by progressives to homogenize cultures(while exploiting differences at the same time) and to deemphasize our national heritage is the accelerant.


114 posted on 05/06/2013 5:18:58 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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