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The Dishonest Gun-Control Debate - Indiana is not to blame for Chicago crime.
National Review Online ^ | MAY 3, 2013 | Kevin D. Williamson

Posted on 05/03/2013 10:42:42 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 05/03/2013 10:42:42 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

They should ask the resident what he knows about project “gangwalker”.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/09/codrea-exclusive-project-gangwalker.html


2 posted on 05/03/2013 10:49:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: neverdem

No it’s death merchant Chicago politicians who would let innocent Chicago residents die rather than punish gun criminals that are the cause of all the violent deaths in Chicago. It is there political solution to take away your rights and blame you in the process.


3 posted on 05/03/2013 10:53:38 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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European Murder Rates Compared to the United States: Demographics vs Guns

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/01/european-murder-rates-compared-to.html


4 posted on 05/03/2013 11:15:21 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: cripplecreek
This is causing quite a stir - making the gun control freaks heads explode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F1nPSNnaBo

only 2 minutes - pass it on after viewing. it is going viral ...

5 posted on 05/03/2013 11:21:04 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: neverdem

Statistics are misleading: Cops here, along with the Coroner, determine cause of death (i.e. Accident, Homicide, Suicide, etc)

In places like Britain, there is no official cause of homicide unless a conviction of murder or manslaughter is made in a case regarding the death. So unsolved crimes are not homicides. Nor are cases where the perp was not convicted by a court of law. . .


6 posted on 05/03/2013 11:21:04 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: neverdem

Hell of a pull-quote ...

“You can chicken-and-egg this stuff all day, of course: It may be that Detroit is poor, ignorant, and backward because it is run by liberals, or it may be run by liberals because it is poor, ignorant, and backward. You can point the accusatory vector of causation whichever direction you like, but the correlation between municipal liberalism and violent crime remains stronger than that of violent crime and gun restriction. It is hardly the fault of the people of Indiana that Chicago is populated by people who cannot be trusted with the ordinary constitutional rights enjoyed by free people from sea to shining sea.”

SnakeDOc


7 posted on 05/03/2013 11:25:22 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: neverdem
Chicago is Mexican drug cartel route..

Mexican drug suspect: U.S. gave me immunity

… Prosecutors say Vicente Zambada-Niebla oversaw drug running on a massive scale into the U.S. But now, from behind bars at a maximum security prison in Chicago, he's making his own explosive accusations -- that U.S. government agents have been aiding Mexico's infamous Sinaloa cartel -- even tipping off leaders on how to avoid capture.

DEA BOSS: MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS ARE SO DEEPLY EMBEDDED IN CHICAGO, WE HAVE TO OPERATE LIKE WE’RE ‘ON THE BORDER’

8 posted on 05/03/2013 11:28:09 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: marktwain

From the 2010 census.

Gary, Indiana

Population — 80,294

African American — 84.8%
White — 10.7%
Hispanic / Latino — 5.1%

Muncie, Indiana

Population — 70,085

White — 84.0%
African American — 10.9%
Hispanic / Latino — 2.3%

Now, can anyone connect the dots here?
White —


9 posted on 05/03/2013 11:34:35 AM PDT by technically right
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To: neverdem

Indiana’s not to blame for Chaicago’s crime? But the President just said that the US is to blame for Mexico’s crime. (Sounds to me like we’re being set up for another go-’round of Fast & Furious.....)


10 posted on 05/03/2013 11:36:44 AM PDT by Reo (the 4th Estate is a 5th Column)
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To: opentalk

There are a lot of rumors that the FedGov is using the Mexican cartels for its own purposes. Just like there were rumours about Columbia, till they took care of the problem.


11 posted on 05/03/2013 11:40:30 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Reo
GOP didn't demand Holders resignation, or criminal charges...they just pretend it didn't happen are empowered even more.
12 posted on 05/03/2013 11:41:05 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: neverdem

http://home.nra.org/home/document/2013-nra-annual-meetings-exhibits

It’s LIVE on now - Perry is speaking.


13 posted on 05/03/2013 11:42:46 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the link. Holder should have been impeached. The GOPe is useless.


14 posted on 05/03/2013 11:57:02 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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“Other than the truly shocking position of the United States, the list of countries ranked by homicide rates contains few if any surprises.”

I crunched the numbers available in MS-Excel format from that Wikipedia link. Since there was some countries for which there was no data, for one or more years in the data-survey-list, I eliminated any country with no data for any year and took an average for every country for whatever years of data available for a country.

The U.S., on simply homicide rates, comes out at a little below the median (1/2 are above the median and 1/2 below) and at less than half the average rate (some very high rate countries take the average way up).

What needs to be understood altogether is that a lot of factors go into the social excuses for homicide rates, but only one fact determines why a homicide is committed or not, regardless of any of those excuses - someone decides for whatever reason under whatever conditions and context that they have the right to take a life.

We know that to be true because for each and every social excuse for a high homicide rate the majority of people that could fit that excuse do not commit a homicide. In spite of their life troubles, in spite of excusing their actions for the same reasons, the majority of those who might fit any of those excuses CHOOSE to not be murderers.

It makes it clear that in the final analysis becoming a murderer is a choice, not a given of someone’s life circumstances.


15 posted on 05/03/2013 12:00:56 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Salgak

Thanks for the info!


16 posted on 05/03/2013 12:08:25 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: opentalk

Thanks for the links.


17 posted on 05/03/2013 12:14:27 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem
Excellent piece.
18 posted on 05/03/2013 12:14:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: SnakeDoctor
"It is hardly the fault of the people of Indiana that Chicago is populated by people who cannot be trusted with the ordinary constitutional rights enjoyed by free people from sea to shining sea.”

Exactly! If easy access to guns in Indiana is the cause of murder in Chicago then why isn't the murder rate in Indiana as high as it is in Chicago?

19 posted on 05/03/2013 12:23:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: presently no screen name

Thank for the link. I’m listening to the audio.


20 posted on 05/03/2013 12:27:18 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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