[Jane Long]

I'll never forget the scene right after Ryan gave a budget speech that Slick Willy attended. Slick came up to Ryan, afterwards, and they chatted it up...Slick told Ryan if he "wanted to talk about it, give me a call". Ryan said he would. It was on tape.

Something about that exchange sent my Ryan radar up and I haven't really trusted him, since. That, and when he held back on Joe at the VP *debate*.

[Marathoner]

when he held back on Joe at the VP *debate*.

AMEN to that! I'll never forget yelling at the TV when Biteme was making an ass out of himself when all his grinning and sneering, and Ryan didn't do squat about it.