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The dollar – and the USA – is toast (China prepping for final collapse of America)
WND ^ | May 7, 2013 | Lord Monckton

Posted on 05/07/2013 10:50:10 PM PDT by Perseverando

Obama has done it. He has brought America down. It only took him just over four years. The Republicans could have stopped him. They didn’t.

How did the nihilistic left succeed in destroying America? Simple. They learned just a little of the capitalism they hate, and they drove your nation into outright bankruptcy.

And here is what the GOP has to say about it: just about nothing.

The once-mighty United States is now the most indebted nation on Earth. In round numbers, here are just some of the vital statistics as the patient dies:

National debt: $17 trillion, or $50,000 per man, woman and child, or $150,000 per taxpayer. Annual federal deficit: $1 trillion. Medicare/Medicaid/Obama”care”: $1 trillion a year. Social Security: another $1 trillion a year. Defense: two-thirds of a trillion. Unemployment handouts: $2 billion per working day. Debt interest: $1 billion per working day. Federal pensions, ditto.

Now for the big numbers. Your government’s Social Security liability is as big as the national debt: $17 trillion. Its prescription drug liability is $22 trillion. Then there’s the Medicare liability of $86 trillion. Total unfunded liabilities of the U.S. government are $125 trillion.

Net assets for each U.S. citizen are $300,000. The net liability of the U.S. government, shared among its citizens, amounts to almost four times that: $1.1 million a head. And the government’s debt is growing at $1 million every 45 seconds. To cover its annual deficit, it is printing $1 trillion a year of currency that is not backed by any asset whatsoever.

Here is what will happen next. When the crash comes, don’t say you weren’t given fair and clear warning.

First, the dollar will cease – no, make that “is already ceasing” – to be the world’s reserve currency. China, as

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 4kooks; bankrupt; china; collapse; currency; dollar; economy; inflation; monckton; nationaldebt; obamanomics; preppers; reservecurrency; shtf; socialsecurity; teotwawki
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To: AlexW

These days I much prefer the name of this/my Country to be known simply as the US as the Constitution declares. Attaching the A has brought much confusion as to the extension of the Nation.


21 posted on 05/07/2013 11:53:57 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: F15Eagle
The fedzilla has known that a date certain is fast approaching after which they will not be able to be resupplied with weaponsa nd ammo, so they have been buying a multiyear supply with nearly useless dollars, planning on lasting out the collapse in their already well stocked several bunkers around the country.

Perhaps now that men Like Lord MOnkton are sounding the alarm more will get 'in the prepper mood'. ... And the negative naybob regime drones will do their best to convicne US that things are getting better under little barry bastard goon.

22 posted on 05/08/2013 12:03:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: liberty or death
But the oligarchs are not going to say ‘frick you we will not pay’. What they will do is pay using the federally set aside lands with resources, making America become what Maddy Albright slip and told US the oligarchs had planned for US ... we will not be a super power, we will be on subsistence.
23 posted on 05/08/2013 12:06:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Perseverando

they can go eff themselvesif they try to collect anything from me. their gross overspnding is something i railed againstthem doing. all i got was excuses.


24 posted on 05/08/2013 12:07:50 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: liberty or death; 2ndDivisionVet
It’s an act of war I know, but who will collect when we can’t pay?

Let's review the collapse step by step. By the end of it we will know who the winners are.

Let's say, on day X China does some magic trick and the US Dollar ceases to be an international trade instrument. This is a very crude approximation, of course, just for sake of triggering the collapse.

Next, China holds US obligations for billions of dollars. They are not due yet, and the USA can easily repay them just with more computer-generated money. The obligations are essentially worthless at this point.

But China - and the rest of the world - suddenly declare that they won't sell anything new to the USA, except for gold. The USA has some gold, but not as much as to finance all our external purchases. You can be sure that the gold will not be used to buy frying pans in China, so that you can then buy them at Wal-Mart for your worthless USD. Probably you will never see the US gold; in best case it will be used to buy strategic supplies; in worst case it will be stolen by simply being paid to fake foreign creditors. Nobody would ever know the truth and live to tell about it.

This results in collapse of the US society. We cannot exist without oil - it drives tractors at farms, it fuels coal and natural gas mining. This collapses production of energy. The whole society briefly struggles, but then collapses. The government falls apart, with most bureaucrats leaving the country.

China and other major international players are observing the collapse. As the USA is no longer a decisive force in the international politics, new power blocs are quickly formed. They are already sketched and tacked together, by the way. They can be converted into supra-national governments after just one summit and a few signatures. Thus, the world becomes reshaped overnight, and the USA has nothing to say here. This is already a HUGE win for China, for example. What do you think will happen to Taiwan? IMO, it will surrender immediately - it has no chance. Every other country will also do what they need, and nobody will be objecting.

While all that fun is happening in the world, the USA experiences mass hunger and localized armed conflicts between smaller groups of survivors. However the country still posesses the nuclear weapons. How will the new world government(s) see that? As a threat, of course. Since there is nobody in the US territory to secure those weapons, they will be secured by adequate forces of foreign multinational troops. If those limit ourselves to the bases with nukes, nobody in the USA will even know. If a few people do learn, what can they do about a well equipped army that is holding a small territory? Not much; they don't have too much ammo, and they don't have weapons that can attack the invaders from a distance, or high in the air. With nukes secured, the USA is effectively dismantled as a world power. That is yet another gain to other members of the nuclear club.

In the next phase foreign governments start providing humanitarian assistance to the US population that remains by then. Such assistance is always coming with strings attached. The alternative is to essentially die out. Only a few farmers know how to live off the land and can convert to using animals instead of machines. Cities will not survive for long without food, water, and sanitation. So the help will be accepted - and beggars are not choosers.

So, let's summarize. For example, China worked for ten years for free, making plastic toys for the US market and being paid with worthless things. But that labor is in the past, it's water under the bridge. (Besides, China has diversified its investments; the USD is exactly where China wants it to be in their balance.) Anyway, at the zeroth second of the post-American age we have a strong and healthy China that has most of Earth's industry, lots of skilled workers, no particular liabilities, and is self-sufficient. China is also on good terms with mostly everyone. If Chinese investments into USD disappear overnight, it will only affect future profits - that will never materialize. But today nothing will change for China, except that it loses 20% of its industrial output that today goes to the USA. Since it was not paid for, this loss is actually a gain.

What will it get in return? It will become the most developed industry of the world. Not conditionally, as it is today - but unconditionally. China has workers and factories; India has workers and programmers; Russia has territory and raw materials... there is a lot of potential between those major players, if only they don't wage a war against each other. And they won't.

At the same time the USA ceases to be a force, and becomes just a remote, undeveloped territory that is up for grabs in a decade or two, when the survivors of the civil war die out. How exactly will it be shared is not so important. The remnants of the population, who may be as large as 10 or 20 million, will not be a factor in those calculations. The world will be permanently changed. Who wins from all that? Just about everyone, except perhaps Israel - but today Israel doesn't tie its future to the future of the USA. It will be OK.

Why the rest of the world will be better off? Just because the USA borrows too much wealth of the world without repaying for it. These days the USA doesn't even return what we borrow because the mass printing of the dollar devalues the existing mass of money. With the USA cut off, the world will have to invest into something else, into something that actually has positive ROI, instead of feeding tens and hundreds of millions of people on social security who do not work, do not want to work, and who cannot work even if they wanted. A formal default of a bad debtor will be not such a bad scenario.


How about this scenario? I thought it up right here and now, just logically following up on your input. I'm sure it is wrong here and there; I am not Hari Seldon, after all. But you cannot fool psychohistory forever - certain things are bound to happen. Maybe the bankrupt USA will be forced to establish austerity measures that would make us all paupers overnight, if not debt slaves. But even that will wreck the economy, and it's downhill from there anyway. Maybe a strong and ruthless dictator shows up and becomes supported by the military. But they have to eat too... and the country will have very little food where it matters. No military regime can force people to not die from hunger and diseases. Without a productive population any regime is doomed.
25 posted on 05/08/2013 12:26:15 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: noinfringers2

“Attaching the A has brought much confusion as to the extension of the Nation.”
________________________________________

OK, I will settle for USS.
I did not, however, see anything wrong with the previous United States of America.
It IS still part of North America, but no longer resembles
the country that I grew up in.


26 posted on 05/08/2013 12:26:38 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Maceman; Ron C.; AlexW
I have been fearing our pending economic collapse for at least a decade, but now I see it as unavoidable."

Your fears aren't evidence that the U.S. has somehow collapsed already.

Frankly, I find your defeatism and depression to be disgusting.

Buck up, Men!

27 posted on 05/08/2013 12:32:17 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Greysard

A) If China, Europe or anyone else demand gold for all US purchases, who’re they going to sell their products to? The suddenly wealthy middle class in Africa, Bangladesh and Egypt? The moon colonists? (B) China would collapse more quickly and in a worse way than we would. They have a lot more people to feed than we do.


28 posted on 05/08/2013 12:35:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Greysard
"We cannot exist without oil - it drives tractors at farms, it fuels coal and natural gas mining." - Greysard

You have a fundamental misconception of geopolitics and industry.

In 1993, the U.S. was importing 13 million barrels of oil per day.

Today, the U.S. is on track to import less than 6 million barrels of oil per day for 2013.

Work hard. Grasp that trend.

In 5 years North America no longer imports oil.

In 2013, Tesla is selling 100,000 electric cars. The U.S. has been exporting Liquid Natural Gas (LNG) since 2009.

Why?

Oilfield fracking.

The world is entirely different today from 2007 or before, and so is the future which you have entirely mis-predicted.

29 posted on 05/08/2013 12:41:41 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Perseverando

Just started raining here in New York.


30 posted on 05/08/2013 12:46:07 AM PDT by onona (KCCO & I loves me some gap)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
30 million immigrants would reduce our per citizen debt burden by 10% or $5,000 per person.

If they weren't sucking as hard on the teat as they could and were actually contributing something, maybe, but when they come here to scam welfare and live off our largesse while they sit on theirs, it isn't going to work out in our favor.

31 posted on 05/08/2013 12:46:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Greysard
With nukes secured, the USA is effectively dismantled as a world power. That is yet another gain to other members of the nuclear club.

Many of those readily deployable nukes are in silos, and those would be the ones to grab--but that ignores SLBMs which could 'dust off' the occupiers outside while the hardened facilities would survive to fight. The wild card is at sea.

32 posted on 05/08/2013 12:51:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Greysard
The remnants of the population, who may be as large as 10 or 20 million...

Wow, the weathermen (and their descendants) are ecstatic beyond their dreams, as their culling of 25-millions turns out to be more than 10 times higher. And to think that their dreams were initiated in one of their living rooms.

33 posted on 05/08/2013 12:51:34 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Southack
Frankly, I find your defeatism and depression to be disgusting.

Frankly, I do too. I wish I could see things differently. I hope I am wrong. But what I see every day tells me I'm not.

34 posted on 05/08/2013 12:53:44 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Maceman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=Pln9JKEjFks


35 posted on 05/08/2013 12:59:02 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Maceman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rej9n3CDtRY


36 posted on 05/08/2013 1:02:22 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Maceman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BTCoT8ajbI


37 posted on 05/08/2013 1:04:47 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Maceman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im1iNq02Kz0


38 posted on 05/08/2013 1:07:52 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: liberty or death

I remember this same hysteria when Japan was buying up all the real estate in Los Angeles and New York.


39 posted on 05/08/2013 1:09:42 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Maceman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdgQpa1pUUE


40 posted on 05/08/2013 1:17:43 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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