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'Cut it or I will burn it off': Russia police 'force three Muslim men to trim their beards..
Daily Mail ^ | March 14, 2013 | Amanda Williams

Posted on 05/08/2013 6:03:43 PM PDT by cunning_fish

Police officers in Russia forced three men in a Muslim cafe to cut their beards at gunpoint, it has been claimed. During an inspection of a Muslim cafe in the Russian city of Surgut police officers apparently threatened some visitors with automatic weapons and with a lighter. One of the men claims an officer held a lighter to his chin and told him 'cut it off or I will burn it off'. The incident allegedly took place on March 3 in the cafe located near a mosque as the men were eating after evening prayers. One of the men said he was forced to use scissors to cut off his long beard. It is believed there were 15 officers in masks and they arrived in four cars. According to Red Hot Russia, witnesses saw people in the uniform of riot police (OMON) burst into cafe place and force visitors onto their knees. Afterwards it claims several people were taken to the police station, where the law enforcement officers checked their documents. It is believed there has been an internal investigation launched by the Russian police. Russian news agencies have said the officers were implementing the rules of 'Peter the Great' who ruled the Tsardom of Russia in the late 1600s. He commanded all of his courtiers and officials to cut off their long beards and imposed an annual beard tax on those who refused.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bostonbombing; immigration; islam; jihad; marathonbombing; muslim; russia; wot

1 posted on 05/08/2013 6:03:43 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Cool!!


2 posted on 05/08/2013 6:06:46 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: cunning_fish

Yes yes.

Go Russians.

Do to them whatever you wish.


3 posted on 05/08/2013 6:07:21 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: cunning_fish

Were they talking to the moooslim women or men? Not sure . . . . Love how the ruskies ain’t taking no moooslim $hit from them. Cut their beards with a rusty razor blade.


4 posted on 05/08/2013 6:09:05 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: cunning_fish
Russian news agencies have said the officers were implementing the rules of 'Peter the Great' who ruled the Tsardom of Russia in the late 1600s. He commanded all of his courtiers and officials to cut off their long beards and imposed an annual beard tax on those who refused.

Yes, he did:

I dunno. If they'd let us be I'd say let them be. But they won't.

5 posted on 05/08/2013 6:10:38 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: cunning_fish

Go Russia!


6 posted on 05/08/2013 6:11:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cunning_fish

Cut your beard or we will burn it off is the only option Nidal Hassan should have got.


7 posted on 05/08/2013 6:13:10 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: cunning_fish
I wish the Muslim women would burn their own burqas (sp?).
8 posted on 05/08/2013 6:14:10 PM PDT by District13 (I miss my country!)
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To: cunning_fish

I say tape them to a chair, apply hot wax, lay cloth over wax then rip the cloth off.


9 posted on 05/08/2013 6:14:42 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: cunning_fish

A friend of mine had a brother who went to the police academy with a mustache... the Drill Instructor told him to shave it or he would rub it off with a rock...lol


10 posted on 05/08/2013 6:14:45 PM PDT by ropin71 (God Bless our Troops!)
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To: cunning_fish

Rock n’ roll!


11 posted on 05/08/2013 6:15:08 PM PDT by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: cunning_fish

So why is this a problem?


12 posted on 05/08/2013 6:16:17 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! It's all your fault now, you own it.)
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To: cunning_fish

Putin doesn’t like the muzzies. Off with their beards!


13 posted on 05/08/2013 6:16:47 PM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: cunning_fish

A “ beard tax” from Peter the Great time period makes this article feel like a hoax ...

Of course this is Russia... They do some strange things...


14 posted on 05/08/2013 6:18:09 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: cunning_fish
..claims a Russian officer held a lighter to his chin and told him 'cut it off or I will burn it off!.


15 posted on 05/08/2013 6:18:49 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
My first thought as well. I scrolled to see if others had the same idea before posting.

Although in a just world, the troops would be able to exercise their God given unalienable right to keep and bear arms. And, as soon as the muzzie POS shouted "allah akbar" and started to raise a weapon he should've been shot to hamburger.

16 posted on 05/08/2013 6:19:24 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: cunning_fish

Gee, that’s a shame. If it’s true, they should probably apologize or something.


17 posted on 05/08/2013 6:28:19 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: cunning_fish

The guys from Duck Dynasty would be in a fix if over there....


18 posted on 05/08/2013 6:30:47 PM PDT by deport
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To: JZoback

>>>A “ beard tax” from Peter the Great time period makes this article feel like a hoax ...

Of course this is Russia... They do some strange things...<<<<

It has really happened. Arabs tried to make a big story out of it and filed a petition. A response from police dept was it has nothing to do with racism&profiling and officers has tried to enforce Peter’s law, defunct since earlier 1700s. “Officers underwent additional training to update their legal knowledge etc....No ground for disciplinary action”.
Muzzies thought it was a sneer from the police force.


19 posted on 05/08/2013 6:32:18 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: District13

Be careful what you wish for.


20 posted on 05/08/2013 6:35:33 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: penelopesire

I don’t know why the Muslims should object to being told to cut their beards ...their own countries have teams that go out and nail people for showing hair, or walking alone etc.

Too bad...hats off to Russia for “humilating them”...for it seems to be the only thing that impacts them. Death surely doesn’t.


21 posted on 05/08/2013 6:37:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: SandRat

lol...


22 posted on 05/08/2013 6:40:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: JZoback

“Of course this is Russia... They do some strange things...”

Indeed. Russia arrested Pussy Riot femi-Nazis for crashing an orthodox church ceremony.

Strange days for sure.


23 posted on 05/08/2013 6:40:50 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Da Coyote

Russians know how to deal with muzzies. They have NEVER had an ambassador screwed with. Google what happened to the last muzzies that screwed with them in Lebanon back in the eighties.


24 posted on 05/08/2013 6:42:16 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

>>Russians know how to deal with muzzies. They have NEVER had an ambassador screwed with. Google what happened to the last muzzies that screwed with them in Lebanon back in the eighties.<<<

In fact they had both Tehran embassy raided and ambassador killed at the time (1829):
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griboedov

” The incident began when an Armenian eunuch escaped from the harem of Persian shah Fath Ali Shah, and two Armenian girls escaped from that of his son-in-law. All three sought refuge at the Russian legation. As agreed in the Treaty of Turkmenchay, Armenians living in Persia were permitted to return to Eastern Armenia. [1]

However, the Shah demanded that Griboyedov return the three. Griboyedov refused. This caused an uproar throughout the city and several thousand Persians encircled the Russian compound demanding their release.

Griboyedov then decided to offer to return the Armenians. But it was too late. Moments later, urged on by the mullahs, the mob stormed the building.” [2] Griboyedov and other members of his mission had prepared for a siege and sealed all the windows and doors. Armed and in full uniform, they were resolved to defend to the last drop of blood. Although small in number, the Cossack detachment assigned to protect the legation held off the mob for over an hour until finally being driven back to Griboyedov’s office. There, Griboyedov and the Cossacks resisted until the mob broke through the roof of the building, and then through the ceiling, to slaughter them. The escaped eunuch and Griboyedov, who fought with his sword, were among the first to be shot to death; the fate of the two Armenian girls remains unknown. [1][3] Second secretary of the mission Karl Adelung and, in particular, a young doctor whose name is not known, fought hard, but soon the scene was one of butchered, decapitated corpses.

Griboyedov’s body, thrown from a window, was decapitated by a kebab vendor who displayed the head on his stall. [2] The mob dragged the uniformed corpse through the city’s streets and bazaars, to cries of celebration. It was eventually abandoned on a garbage heap after three days of ill-treatment by the mob, such that in the end it could be identified only by a duelling injury to a finger. The following June, Griboyedov’s friend Alexander Pushkin, travelling through the southern Caucasus, encountered some men from Teheran leading an oxcart. The men told Pushkin they were conveying the ambassador’s remains to Tiflis (now Tbilisi). Griboyedov was buried there, in the monastery of St David (Mtatsminda Pantheon). [2]

When Nino, Griboyedov’s widow, received news of his death she gave premature birth to a child who died a few hours later. Nino lived another thirty years, rejecting all suitors and winning universal admiration for her fidelity to her husband’s memory.

In a move to placate Russia for the attack and the death of its ambassador, the Shah sent his grandson Khosrow Mirza to St Petersburg to apologize to Tsar Nicholas I, [2] and to present him with a large diamond, now known as the Shah Diamond.”


25 posted on 05/08/2013 6:51:12 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Now that was a language the could understand.


26 posted on 05/08/2013 6:53:38 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: JZoback

Peter the Great did order Russians to shave their beards and wear western style clothing when he tried to modernize Russia. He also moved the capital from Moscow to a new location because he wanted a European looking city.He built it on a swamp on the Baltic shore and named it St.Petersburg


27 posted on 05/08/2013 6:59:50 PM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: cunning_fish

Say what you will about Russians, they have hot women, and they do not mess around.............


28 posted on 05/08/2013 7:02:02 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Cut your beard or we will burn it off is the only option Nidal Hassan should have got.

Yes! Don’t want to hurt his feelings though.


29 posted on 05/08/2013 7:10:52 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: cunning_fish

Why can’t guys like this sneak into our country?


30 posted on 05/08/2013 7:12:53 PM PDT by Blogatron (Death to islaam)
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To: Blogatron

>>>Why can’t guys like this sneak into our country?<<<

Who’ll give them visas? They are certainly non-muslim and non-diverse in general. Probably won’t make a dim voters either.


31 posted on 05/08/2013 7:17:46 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish
The Russians cut off Muslim beards. The Muslims cut off Infidel heads.

Which is worse?

32 posted on 05/08/2013 7:23:17 PM PDT by Gritty (Our masters in Washington are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants-Jeff Cooper)
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To: Gritty

Well, it depends. If you are a liberal, cutting heads is just a feature of diverse culture. Cutting beards is a police brutality and an obvious insult to diversity.


33 posted on 05/08/2013 7:28:48 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: wastoute

Too right. The only thing they respect or at least comprehend is the direct threat of violence. It’s a shame we have to wait so long for the world to recognize this basic fact.


34 posted on 05/08/2013 7:55:31 PM PDT by relictele (A place dedicated to economic, racial and social equality. It was called Jonestown.)
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To: cunning_fish

Oh, dear me - no!

Do you mean to tell me that someone, somewhere, actually had the stones to treat Moslem males the same way Moslem males treat everyone else on Planet Earth?

Oh, that’s terrible!


35 posted on 05/08/2013 8:08:13 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: cunning_fish

So ZZ Top and the Duck Dynasty guys might want to avoid there.


36 posted on 05/08/2013 8:11:22 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: cunning_fish

the Russians should be careful... the Muslims might get the impression you don’t want them in your country

(come to think of it... anyone have a bic lighter?)


37 posted on 05/08/2013 8:11:24 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: cunning_fish

Big babies...cry me a river! They are whining about being forced to “cutting” their beards? Funny how those towel heads don’t have a problem “cutting off” a certain part of their wives and daughters female parts...LOSERS.


38 posted on 05/08/2013 8:11:26 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: cunning_fish

Read about the muzzies in Lebanon.


39 posted on 05/08/2013 8:57:58 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: District13

Think about that for just a quick second. It is possible there is good reason Muslim women are made to wear full body covering.


40 posted on 05/08/2013 9:33:22 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: cunning_fish

The only time I’ve been more proud of the Russkies was when they decided to leave the Somali Pirates 600 miles from shore in a leaky boat with no compass.


41 posted on 05/08/2013 9:39:57 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: cunning_fish
это здорово!
42 posted on 05/08/2013 9:42:27 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

In fact Russian OMON forces are notorious to be a dump for a former Marines with lowest IQ and biggest muscles. Most of them were deployed to some kind of Asscrackistan before and has really little love to bearded Muslims.


43 posted on 05/08/2013 10:39:55 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: penelopesire

Next step is to go “sharia” on them and cut the beards off at the collar bone...


44 posted on 05/09/2013 4:07:51 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: JZoback
no, it's completely true

until Peter's time, the Tsardom was Eastern, Mongolian even in dress and outlook

Peter was westernized and aimed to drag Russia to being European

And the action against beards was one of them, then also his marriage to a German princess (as an aside, after Peter, each of his descendants married a German, such that by 1815, Tsar Alexander was nearly pure-blood German) and his movement against the "Old Believers"

45 posted on 05/09/2013 7:45:02 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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