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Senate defeats expansion of gun rights
The Washington Times ^ | 8 May, 2013 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 05/09/2013 4:33:29 PM PDT by marktwain

The Senate beat back a new push to expand gun rights Wednesday, defeating a plan to let gun owners carry their weapons on federal lands in states where it would otherwise be legal.

Still, Wednesday’s vote drew more support than last month’s efforts to impose new gun controls in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting, suggesting that Second Amendment supporters retain the momentum in the gun debate.

The 56-43 vote was four shy of the 60 needed to be adopted under Senate rules.

At stake was the ability to carry weapons firearms on Army Corps of Engineers lands in states where carrying weapons is legal already.

Under federal rules, it is illegal to carry weapons on Corps lands unless specifically for the purpose of hunting. Sen. Tom Coburn, who wrote the amendment, said people should be able to carry weapons for self defense, too — and said it’s already legal on Forest Service and Park Service lands.

“Why would we dare deny the rights that we give everywhere else on federal land — why would we do something different on Corps land?” the Oklahoma Republican said.

The gun showdown came as part of a broader debate over a public works bill.

Sen. Barbara Boxer, who led the charge against the amendment, said it could have created a national security risk because Mr. Coburn’s bill would allow guns to be carried near critical infrastructure such as dams or reservoirs, which could be considered a national security risk. Mr. Coburn denied that, saying other parts of federal law still prevent carrying weapons near critical infrastructure.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; federalland; guncontrol; secondamendment; senate
This would have been a restoration of Constitutional rights, not an expansion of them.
1 posted on 05/09/2013 4:33:29 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Perhapse the wrioter is under the mistaken impression that we live under Napoleonic Law, and not Natural Law...

Of course laws have been been recently enforced and written in a such a half-a$$ed way to almost MAKE it appear that we do live under Napoleonic Laws.


2 posted on 05/09/2013 4:45:18 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: marktwain

CC permits should be same as drivers license....honored in all states.


3 posted on 05/09/2013 4:55:36 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: marktwain

“suggesting that Second Amendment supporters retain the momentum in the gun debate. “

This statement by the author is evidence of a monumental miss-apprehension of the Constitution. The opponents of the Bill of Rights are vindicated. Again.


4 posted on 05/09/2013 4:55:47 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: marktwain

I had no idea you could damage a dam with a handgun.


5 posted on 05/09/2013 4:57:06 PM PDT by Kent1957
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To: marktwain

What do these fools think that us travelers do.... pull over before getting to a dam, bury our guns under a rock and pick them up on the way home?

I can just see me telling my wife; “I am sorry dear, I know that we are thousands of miles from home, but I didn’t know about or even see that water reservoir on the map. “ Maybe you could call 911 and see if the cops will buy our guns....”

Our 2A applies to the entire country, not just places in which these wet dreamers think they are Kings.


6 posted on 05/09/2013 5:18:57 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: True Grit
CC permits should be same as drivers license....honored in all states.

I see in the Constitution that I have the right to Keep and Bear arms, which shall not be infringed. I don't see in the constitution that I have the right to drive on public roads.

I shouldn't need no stinkin' CC permit, and the only place that should be off limits are places where everybody has to go through metal detectors to ensure a sterile environment.

7 posted on 05/09/2013 5:50:57 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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why would we do something different on Corps land?

Jut for starters, it isn't "Corps land." It's WE THE PEOPLE'S Land.

8 posted on 05/09/2013 7:35:21 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: y'all

Roll Call. . .

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00115


9 posted on 05/10/2013 1:06:45 AM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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