Skip to comments.Ex-NASA scientist says re-industrializing with fossil fuels makes no sense
Posted on 05/16/2013 1:35:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai
A noted climatologist and recently-retired NASA research chief has entered the EUs energy policy debate, with a warning that any re-industrialization strategy that increases fossil fuels use can only be short-term, irrational and economically wasteful.
In a wide-ranging interview with EurActiv, James Hansen branded the EUs Emissions Trading System (ETS) ineffectual and flawed, and accused energy firms of preferring government bribes over investments in clean technology. Hansen, whose Congressional testimony on climate change in 1988 first popularized the issue in the United States, also said that approving the proposed Keystone XL pipeline to bring tar sands fuel from Canada to Texas would gravely tarnish President Barack Obamas legacy.
We do not make fossil fuels companies pay for their effects on human health, or on the climate, and we even subsidize them, he said, so it is a very short term argument to say that you should re-industrialize in a way that uses more fossil fuels. It doesnt even make economic sense from a long-term perspective, he argued. By any rational assessment, those fuels need to be left in the ground.
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Wrong in ‘88. Wrong now. At least we see where our tax dollars went paying this useless POS.
Thing is, I don’t think they are fossil fuels any more than I think I use my phone to tape stuff. It’s just a phrase. Evidence is increasing that the earth itself generates that stuff.
That's OK, Mr. Hansen. Give me a quark reactor instead, or at least a working fusion reactor.
Oh, you don't have one? Then come back with your helpful advices when you do. Humans on this planet need all the energy they can lay their hands on just to survive.
Reminds me of when taxonomists classified the giant panda as a raccoon rather than a bear, merely because the red panda is actually related to the raccoons. Scientists need to stick to the scientific method.
oh look the most prominent member of the dark earth society is still causing trouble.
Might be a reason why he’s an EX Nasa scientist.
Nothing about nuclear energy. They don’t want to talk about that.
Fine... it’s becoming more and more apparent that oil and NATURAL gas are not “fossil fuels”...
Welcome to the real world Hansen, you didn't actually think any of this horsesh** you were peddling was actually taken seriously do you?
So we should leave the toxins in the ground, unused, where they may poison the water table and come on the shores of our beaches?
Because of some fantasy that man is changing the Earth’s temperature?
The fuels may not even be fossil based.
“Ex NASA Scientist Makes No Sense” would be a better headline...
What a maroon.
Yeah. When I argue with liberals about AGW (human caused global warming) they inevitably accuse me of hating science. My response is always the same. I LOVE science. I HATE JUNK science.
How did I know it was going to be Hansen?
What the hell does “re-industrializing” mean?
If, by "short term", this "scientist" means the next 1000 years, then yes, by all means, use fossil fuels for the short term!
[drilling for oil needs 1,000,000 years from now is RIGHT out!].
it is NOT a fossil fuel!!!!!
Jimmy, buy a vowel.
Oh, the “hate science” talking point. It’s they that hate science and prefer dogma; when their dogma doesn’t stand up to the scientific method, they start in with their “destroy the infidel” rhetoric.
This guy is a total left wing hack.
Think one of Jupiter or Saturn’s moons has a methane (natural gas) atmosphere. Fossils weren’t the source of that. Hydrocarbons have been found in plumes of gas from Mars. Seems that these chemicals we call fossil fuels are noticeably abundant in the universe.
DEEP HOT BIO-SPHERE ping!!!!!!!
Paying any attention to this pseudo-scientist makes no sense.
“Ex-NASA scientist says re-industrializing with fossil fuels makes no sense”
NASA ex-scientist says re-industrializing with fossil fuels makes no sense
There, fixed it.
Using his rationale perhaps he could start by turning off his air conditioner and discontinuing driving and flying. He is personally consuming resources and adding no value to society. Perhaps he should stop eating as well.
“with a warning that any re-industrialization strategy that increases fossil fuels use can only be short-term, irrational and economically wasteful”
So, now, we have a retired NASA scientist who is an expert at industrialization....
Me thinks he has inhaled too much rocket fuel or stayed at a Holiday Inn last night....
I’m really looking forward to the day I get to read James Hansen’s obituary. It’ll be champagne popping time, for sure!
Wonderful when a teen comes together!!!!!
Paying the time of day to EX-NASA scientists makes no sense.
So he graduated from the super advanced shop class at MIT or wherever. Doesn’t mean he knows a damn thing about the real world.
We should re-industrialize using muscle power from draft animals and humans yoked to machines. After all, it worked so well for thousands of years before the Industrial Revolution.
Makes plenty of sense to the socialists in Europe, though.
It's nonsense, but its use is very telling. The target of the alarmists has always been industrialization and industrialized society itself. These people have the belief that the human race is destroying the planet by the very process of industrialization. They invented AGW theory as their silver bullet that explains how we have been destroying the planet and how we can "save" it.
To the extent the alarmists' plans have been implemented, Hanson and his ilk view it as "de-industrializing," that is first steps in reversing the industrial revolution. That is their real aim.
That’s assuming the European Union makes sense, first off. Hansen’s acting as the token American spouting the EU talking points to make all the other “ugly” Americans look bad.
I think we could get ships to erect tall poles on them and hang large pieces of cloth from them to catch the wind. Why haven’t we thought of that yet?
I want liberals out of my gas tank. How much fuel I use is a privatre matter between me and Exxon-Mobil.
The word "re-industrialize" can't really be used to describe the process of trying to run the modern world without chemical power. I think the word this ex-NASA witch doctor is looking for is "de-industrialize".
They're the deep thinkers. The rest is merely engineering.
If we made it a policy to do the opposite of what they try, we’d win at every turn.
Hansen makes no sense.
Did he fly to the conference on a magical windmill?
Why should anyone pay attention to this old commie?
We are doomed ... we are not heeding the great environmental faux Prophet Hansen! I guess that makes strike three as we have ignored the two previous Prophets Mann and Jones .... we’re surely doomed!
James. Roll some more duddies and go stand with the freaks protesting the pipeline. That’s about all you got left.
refers to Texas’ gas tax but still. ..
That should be "This Soros-funded loon..."
Grants, of which, iirc, he neglected to file required reports to the appropriate agencies.
Ex-NASA scientist makes no sense