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Obama and the IRS: The Smoking Gun?
The American Spectator ^ | 5/20/13 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 05/20/2013 6:07:00 AM PDT by Lakeshark

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To: chessplayer
Yep, it's not a smoking gun, I guess it's why it's a question mark in the title of the article.

It’s like saying if person A gets a visit from person B, and the next day person B robs a bank, person A is guilty of bank robbery.

If person A is a known bank robber, gets a visit from person B who then goes and robs the bank, there is going to be a suspicion of collusion. I think that characterizes it better.......

61 posted on 05/20/2013 9:00:58 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: alancarp

You’re very welcome.

The 2009 report website also starts out with the below. So whether Obummer “has a commitment to be transparent” or not (we’ve seen over the years it has been NOT) - he’s required to provide this report.

“Since 1995, the White House has been required to deliver a report to Congress listing the title and salary of every White House Office employee.”


62 posted on 05/20/2013 9:03:19 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Lakeshark

Yep, it’s not a smoking gun, I guess it’s why it’s a question mark in the title of the article.


Yes, they used a question mark, but if they didn’t actually think it was a smoking gun, they wouldn’t have used those two words.


63 posted on 05/20/2013 9:12:14 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
My take is they hope it can become a smoking gun via investigation.

One thing for sure, it doesn't look good, and it's correct to point that out.

64 posted on 05/20/2013 9:25:22 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: wiggen

Good observation, although it seems as if, while there was a ceremony, she wasn’t part of it but may have been part of some other small group there to get their federal employee union marching orders from the community organizer himself. Also, why her earlier WH meetings (with a couple of unknown people, although I think I’ve seen at least one of the names before in some other, not-good context)? In theory, she shouldn’t be important enough to merit WH meetings, and secondly, because her job involves federal unions, she shouldn’t even have WH meetings.

She’s the head of a very specific federal employee union, as well as being the head of an anti-Tea Party group in what turns out to be the agency that took the lead in targeting the Tea Party. These things did in fact take off as formal policy after her WH visits, so while you can’t say “post hoc propter hoc” (”after and thus because of”), you can certainly say “highly suspicious, needs further investigation.”


65 posted on 05/20/2013 9:40:58 AM PDT by livius
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To: Candor7; Lakeshark; little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; mojitojoe; stephenjohnbanker; TigersEye; LucyT

” Historically, it is the fascist/trade union interface that was used in Europe to undermine and destroy civil society. In this IRS case there is the destruction of civil society and trampling the Constitution.Serious Crimes.

The FBI should be directing their flat feets right to Colleen Kelley’s door, AND Issa’s Congressional Oversight Committee should depose her immediately.”

The FBI won’t do anything, but Issa might.


66 posted on 05/20/2013 9:41:54 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: chessplayer

Not necessarily, but any cop would certainly give person A a closer look.


67 posted on 05/20/2013 9:42:18 AM PDT by livius
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The problem is, the MSM will obfuscate, ignore, and lie for this administration. If we can’t take them down, replace them with genuine reporters rather than the current group of democrats with bylines, we will continue to lose.


68 posted on 05/20/2013 9:47:30 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

Yeah, the MSM is the Fifth Column.


69 posted on 05/20/2013 9:58:48 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Lakeshark
SMOKING GUN: Obama Met With IRS Union Chief the Day Before Agency Started Targeting Conservatives

Cross-posting this thread because it refers to the same article by Jeffrey Lord and has some informative posts.

70 posted on 05/20/2013 10:01:29 AM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: Lakeshark
This federal union is almost a one-stop-shop for passing orders down to your thugs. Check out which gubmint employees they represent:

Dept. of Agriculture

Dept. of Commerce

Dept. of Energy Dept. of Health and Human Services Administration Dept. of Homeland Security Dept. of the Interior Dept. of the Treasury Environmental Protection Agency

Federal Communications Commission

Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.

Federal Election Commission

National Credit Union Administration

Nuclear Regulatory Commission

Securities and Exchange Commission

Social Security Administration


71 posted on 05/20/2013 10:54:42 AM PDT by Riflema
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To: alancarp
The NTEU website helpfully has a press release confirming POTUS and FLOTUS and Jarrett were there with this woman: Here
72 posted on 05/20/2013 11:01:18 AM PDT by Riflema
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To: Riflema
Jarrett built her career on vote-getting.

She's the point person.

73 posted on 05/20/2013 11:53:32 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Lakeshark
True Scandal
74 posted on 05/20/2013 12:51:57 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Riflema

NTEU, and Executive Branch, functioning as a criminal conspiracy. We haven’t called it a thugocracy without evidence.


75 posted on 05/20/2013 5:37:48 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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