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To: Clump

Yes but this isn’t a criminal trial yet. And her lawyers told Issa that she intended to claim the fifth but Issa let her make a statement anyway.

The American public are not defense attorneys and this isn’t going to play well with them. It doesn’t play well with me. I’m actually ashamed of FR for the number of people on here cheerleading Issa tricking her out of rights. I want to see her prosecuted, but not through trickery.


381 posted on 05/22/2013 9:22:19 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Yup. All this will do is garner sympathy for her. If Issa tries to force this, it will undo everything the hearing has accomplished so far.


382 posted on 05/22/2013 9:31:03 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: DannyTN
her lawyers told Issa that she intended to claim the fifth but Issa let her make a statement anyway

Issa didn't trick anyone. Her counsel could have advised her not to make a statement, but chose to remain silent. Further, her statement sounded like it had been drafted by her counsel. The statement is therefore part of her strategy. She cannot afford a protracted court battle, so the strategy is beyond me. The statement may have been good PR, but it could cost her all her assets in legal expenses. There is something else afoot.

384 posted on 05/22/2013 9:53:52 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: DannyTN

I have had CPS cases where my client testifies (civil case), and I have to object on a question by question basis depending on the nature of the question asked.
However, if I elicit testimony where my client asserts a fact or position, then I can’t foreclose cross examination as to that issue.
Furthermore, in non criminal matters, taking the 5th can be used against you.
But nevertheless, giving her immunity would make the whole question of whether she can exercise the 5th moot. That’s what I’d do, unless the point is to get her up there taking the fifth as an answer to every question.


385 posted on 05/22/2013 10:02:09 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: DannyTN
I’m actually ashamed of FR for the number of people on here cheerleading Issa tricking her out of rights. I want to see her prosecuted, but not through trickery.

You do know, don't you, that Lerner's attorney advised Issa that his client would not be making a statement?

Yet, she did it anyway. That's not Issa's fault; nor is it her attorney's fault.

She did it to herself...all by herself. Her attorney had an incompetent client.

387 posted on 05/22/2013 10:15:25 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: DannyTN
I’m actually ashamed of FR for the number of people on here cheerleading Issa tricking her out of rights. I want to see her prosecuted, but not through trickery.

She's an attorney, I believe, being defended by Superhero Attorney. Trickery is the coin of their realm. If they're this capable of being tricked, so much the better for those of us who would like to see the truth finally outed.

398 posted on 05/23/2013 5:49:46 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: DannyTN

This is the IRS we’re talking about.
Not some charity organization.
This woman headed up the Enforcement Office of the FEC in the 1990’s when they brought a lawsuit against the Christian Coalition and during the process, many of the FEC attorneys asked invasive questions centering on personal faith and prayer practices.
Do you see a pattern yet?
We need more RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION such as that diplayed by Trey Gowdy. Screw your “shame” and “guilt”
There is an “effin” war going on here in case you haven’t noticed. Our government has literally been hijacked by thugs with no, none, nada, zip, zero regard for the “law”.
The last thing we (conservative, principled, constitution-believing, Americans) need amongst the ranks are milquetoasts harboring guilt and shame every time things start to go our way.


402 posted on 05/23/2013 6:10:14 AM PDT by milkncookies (Molon Labe)
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