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To: DiogenesLamp

“Without the “or abstract thereof” which totally renders it irrelevant as proof.”

What do you mean by this? All birth certificates are abstracts, in that they contain only some of the information required by NIHS standard Certificate of Live Birth form.


39 posted on 05/23/2013 11:12:59 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan
What do you mean by this? All birth certificates are abstracts, in that they contain only some of the information required by NIHS standard Certificate of Live Birth form.

What do I mean by this? I mean that Hawaii has changed it's language of certification from something that was absolute and certain, "A True and Correct copy of the Original Record" to something which is not. "Or an abstract thereof."

Adding the words "or Abstract thereof" makes it possible to hide any and all sorts of manipulations which might have occurred to the original document.

For example, as I've said repeatedly, *I* am adopted. As Such I have an "original" birth certificate, and I also have a "replacement" birth certificate. All references to my birth certificate in any official correspondence deliberately hide the fact that my current "official" document is NOT MY ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

Now the ability of the state to lie and mislead in this manner is due to the understandable need to protect children from the circumstances of their adoption, because many of them are unaware of the fact. However, the fact that such legal tricks are permitted for adopted children, also makes them available for abuse in such cases as Obama. (Whom I believe to have been adopted by Lolo Soetoro back in 1965.)

So to sum it up, when you put that bit "*OR* abstract thereof", you have made it impossible to determine if it is fact an original birth certificate, or one that has been subsequently cobbled together by the State DOH to create a replacement document.

Does that clear things up?

46 posted on 05/23/2013 11:36:10 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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