Posted on 05/23/2013 7:22:56 AM PDT by billorites
And just what 'law firm' are these lawyers working for?
The best part of that is the InJustice Department then becomes the vehicle for the prosecution of those charges.
Holder in on the hot seat already for Fast & Furious, AP and Fox News phone records And Nero has publicly said he wants those reponsible held accountable.
No way are they going to let her slide. Not even the liberal press will give them a pass on that move.
Now he may pardon her on his way out of office, but she will do time until then.
I think you have an insight here.
Is this ne’er-do-well still employed by Uncle Sam? I know I’d have been fired if I ever tried some monkeyshines like this.
Well DUH...everyone expects that level of accountability, except perhaps this criminal administration.
I believe, only if it is shown to be an issue of national security. 10491 modified 10450 and does not stand alone.
Since this is not a criminal or civil trial but, rather a forum of inquiry , then she can make a limited statement and then invoke the 5th amendment i, which precludes her from possible self incrmination in a future process of criminal or civil action.
I think she’s constitutionally entitled to assert the Fifth.
However, I also think she’s perjured herself by trying to have her cake and eat it too. That is, she first proclaims complete innocence in the matter and then takes the Fifth. (Her follow-up comment that the Fifth is there to protect the innocent is just wrong; it’s there to protect the guilty from having to incriminate themselves.)
So, her two positions are:
1) I’m completely innocent (presented as a statement of fact, not opinion)
2) I’m invoking the Fifth Amendment because I believe my testimony might possibly be incriminating in some way. (Whether she thinks the odds are slim of her testimony being self-incriminating is irrelevant; invoking it directly implies that she fears incriminating herself with her testimony.)
She can’t have it both ways. Either her statement of fact (her proclaimed innocence) needs to be formally withdrawn, or her invocation of the Fifth. One or the other is a lie. If she’s is in fact innocent she has nothing to fear in testifying and can’t invoke the Fifth without lying. If she fears self-incrimination, she can invoke the Fifth, but can’t make her factual statement of innocence without lying.
In other words, if she stands by both positions, one of them is an obvious lie and she should be judged guilty of perjury.
Again, I have no problem with her taking the Fifth, but if she does, she has to also recant her statement that she is innocent. If she won’t, compel her testimony and find her in contempt if she refuses.
The reason no one has seen anything like this before is because no one should try what she tried. It’s not a tenable position and should subject her to perjury charges if she stays with it. (I’m not a lawyer, but I’m surprised her lawyer would let her try what she did.)
I knew this, the question is why Issa didn’t know this. He’s been a huge disappointment.
It can take a long time for anyone to be prosecuted. The Obama loyalists will presumably do everything they can to shield him...and he can turn around and pardon them, any time after the 2014 elections.
IIRC, Lerner was in charge of the Federal Elections Commision durint the elections for Obama where voter fraud was rampant. She is a crook from the first jump, and an Obama sycophant.
The revolution will get her, also. We have a targert rich environment which grows every day.
Was Issa given information before testimony that she would plead 5th?
Somewhere I THINK I read that he was given her intention to plead the 5th and that he had the information the night before she appeared before hearing and pleading the 5th.
It looked to me that Issa and Gowdy had this plot ready, knowing how arrogant this witch is.
I think I heard it was Ike's. Could be wrong.
Let her fall. Our 'Constitution' still stands, in spite of precedence of liberalism through the years. NO taxation/mandates without representation.... Hear that Boneher... YOU work for US and YOU Boneher have the power of the purse strings.... government wide.
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I believe she was coached but being the arrogant bitch acolyte she is, lost control and ad libbed.
Bottom line, she was unable to resist putting forward the lie.
If justice doesn’t prevail then possibly injustice will.
These fall guy ploys do not work unless the prosecution, that is the Republicans on the committee agree to the derailment implied.. They are attempted, though.
Anyone know the year Lois Lerner begin working at IRS? Did she leave the FEC and immediately begin working in her current position at the IRS? Was it an appointment?
If it’s not an Obama EO, I’d bet a whole case of lager that he won’t enforce it.
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