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To: Gay State Conservative
Married priests would go a long way toward solving two of the Church's biggest problems (at least here)...1) a growing shortage of priests...2) the fact that such a noticeable portion of current priests are of an immoral "orientation".

A specious at best argument. If marriage was the panacea you think it would be then there would be no shortage of Priests in the 21 Churches in the Eastern Rites that ordain, as a norm, married men. That isn't the case. Also, explain the behavior of all of these baptists since you can't use the celibacy made them do it crutch.

it's very difficult for me to see why He'd want his(sic) vicars to be celibate for THEIR ENTIRE LIVES.

Then you need to brush up on your knowledge of Scripture to alleviate that difficulty.

10 posted on 05/25/2013 12:02:38 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; Coleus; narses
A specious at best argument. If marriage was the panacea you think it would be then there would be no shortage of Priests in the 21 Churches in the Eastern Rites that ordain, as a norm, married men. That isn't the case. Also, explain the behavior of all of these baptists since you can't use the celibacy made them do it crutch.

The Herculean task of the current Papacy is to muck out the stables. Did the Church do what it should have done for ALL of these perps? Nope. Is it taking on the task now (decades later than it should have)? Yup.

A lot of changes are happening in parallel. Cleaning up the sexual predators. Restoring the Mass. Proper catechesis. The list goes on.

36 posted on 05/28/2013 3:20:14 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; Coleus; Salvation; Gay State Conservative
Then you need to brush up on your knowledge of Scripture to alleviate that difficulty.

Maybe you missed some of Paul's letters? Have you not read Jesus' Words? Two of the Apostles repeat them! God did not intend for man to be celibate. That is against His plan!

It is perfectly clear that anyone in leadership in the church should be not only married, but have an established family so others can see how he is able to lead. Indeed, we should all marry, man with wife!

Of course, doctrines made by men deny/ignore the existence of those doctrines instituted by God! The result is clearly seen by all casual observers. The Roman Catholic organization is a gateway for homosexual/deviant behavior. For reference, see NEWS! To make the claim that "OTHERS DO IT MORE..." is a puerile diversion from the facts of the Catholic restrictions on marriage.

Matthew 19: 4 "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh' ? 6 So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

Mark 19: 6 "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.' 7 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

1 Corinthians: 2 ... But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. ...

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1 Timothy 3: 1 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. 2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect. 5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?)


37 posted on 05/28/2013 3:45:35 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("...the press had better learn from their experiences of being duped "...-Sarah Palin 5/17/13)
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