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1 posted on 05/29/2013 6:01:58 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Raid his house and shoot his dog.


2 posted on 05/29/2013 6:05:11 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: TurboZamboni

It’s Illinois; the constitution was outlawed there long ago.


5 posted on 05/29/2013 6:18:23 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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The school’s not upset about teaching the 5th. They’re upset he’s teaching them the Constitution.


9 posted on 05/29/2013 6:37:05 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: TurboZamboni

The school’s not upset about teaching the 5th. They’re upset he’s teaching them the Constitution.


10 posted on 05/29/2013 6:37:05 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: TurboZamboni

If you think about it, these school officials would trash us if we said they didn’t respect our Constitution.

Then they do stuff like this, to prove we would be right.


11 posted on 05/29/2013 6:48:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: TurboZamboni

I’m not sure the teacher is, technically, correct here.

Unless the surveys were given on oath, under penalty of perjury and/or with explicit disclaimers that any information provided could/would be used against them, the students wouldn’t have the right to invoke the 5th.

However, had any of the students provided incriminating disclosures in the survey and those disclosures WERE used against them, they (and their parents) would have one heck of a good legal case (based in part on the 5th) against the school.


14 posted on 05/29/2013 7:10:25 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: TurboZamboni

I think the parents of Batavia, Illinois need to organize a town hall meeting with the Batavia School District Board of Education and the staff of Batavia High School. It seems to me if Batavia High School is willing to put forth an invasive survey and punish a teacher who does not sign on, then this school has other issues that needs to be discussed.

From one article I read, the survey was a result of concern over the number of teen suicides in the district. If there is a problem of suicides, it is of utmost importance that the parents, teachers and the school board meet together and start a process to answer the suicide problem and all other problems that need addressing. This is how responsible adults take on problems.

When they put social studies teacher through disciplinary action, it sends a message to all the parents that the school has an autocratic totalitarian management style as opposed to the the team builder style. When you are trying to create the best outcomes for kids, you want the parents involved and leadership that promotes participation rather than a top down one dimensional culture that creates subservience and crushes initiative. If the school’s management style does not promote an attitude conducive to an exchange of ideas and a team builder culture you have a recipe for disastrous outcomes, zero loyalty and high operational costs.


16 posted on 05/29/2013 7:51:57 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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It makes me sad to see how much traction this is getting.

Shocking but true news:

high school students have limited almost meaningless constitutional rights.

As minors they can be drug tested denied free press in their papers and all manner of expectations common to adults.

These are not constitutional right violations and the teacher strikes me as an over zealous libertarian/anarchist.


17 posted on 05/29/2013 8:18:14 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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Tells you where the public schools criteria really is.


19 posted on 07/22/2013 4:29:49 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of tolerance, life,and peace, and if you don't agree, they'll murder you)
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