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Exxon’s $100m Algae Investment Falls Flat
OilPrice.com ^ | May 28, 2013 | Jen Alic

Posted on 05/30/2013 11:20:15 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

Exxon Mobil Corp. (NYSE: XOM) is cutting its losses on algae biofuels after investing over $100 million only to find that it couldn’t achieve commercial viability.

Earlier this week, Exxon announced that while it wasn’t throwing in the towel, it would be forced to restructure its algae research with partner California-based Synthetic Genomics Inc (SGI).

(Excerpt) Read more at oilprice.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: algae; biofuels; energy; exxon; oil
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To: Conspiracy Guy

You pay the price at the pump. I’m just saying that’s how it is. We’re all screwed.


21 posted on 05/31/2013 1:55:31 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002

The oil companies are a very small part of the price at the pump. Government induced supply limits, taxes, and regulations are the biggest part of the problem. I hate the price too but I don’t blame the producers.


22 posted on 05/31/2013 2:13:37 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

They are a part, but in the 90’s we were at this level of oil price and 80 cents a gallon.

And that was with Clinton.

There’s just no justification for the gas prices now, it’s all gouging.


23 posted on 05/31/2013 2:19:54 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002

It’s a shame your car doesn’t run on crude oil. I knew the gouging angle was coming. No reason to continue this debate since you believe oil companies should deliver the product for free. If you buy a cup of coffee today, that is where you’re being gouged by the producer. Oil drives the economy and the biggest taker is GOVERMENT.


24 posted on 05/31/2013 2:28:13 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I worked in downstream at exxon, nuff said. I know how they feel about that entire system. The government taxes aren’t even the tiniest bit of how the think.


25 posted on 05/31/2013 2:30:59 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002

I am a product manager for a large commercial telecom/data equipment provider. Example: I can buy a widget for $100.00 from a manufacturer but due to loaded costs I have to sell it for $350.00 to make a 10% gross, not net, profit. That 10% gross is dependent on a high volume of widgets sold. The telecom technician “downstream” with great wages and benefits package thinks exactly like you do. I am sure glad the downstreamers don’t run the show. Nuff said.


26 posted on 05/31/2013 2:47:28 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Indeed, and that’s why gas is 3.50-4 vs 1.50-2 as it should be.


27 posted on 05/31/2013 2:50:37 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002

In your world the gasoline pump sits on the crude oil well head that magically appeared there and produces 3 grades of product. No drilling, no refining, no transportation, no taxes or regulations, no shareholders. You really learned a lot working downstream.

Have a great day I have to go get dressed for work making obscene profits and sticking it to the little guy.


28 posted on 05/31/2013 3:02:28 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

You have no clue about how things work or what I said, have fun.


29 posted on 05/31/2013 3:04:15 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: SpaceBar

It’s not the accountant, but the engineers who said it would work. Regardless, they took a risk that didn’t pan out, big deal. I like it, it shows that business are willing to take a risk only to “see if something works”. I remember the R&D tax credit - it encouraged companies to spend money to make money. Good capitalist ideas that were taken way when then libtards took over.


30 posted on 05/31/2013 3:58:16 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: Monty22002

I guess I need to work downstream. You’ve said nothing but gas is high because Exxon is evil. I understand what you said but it has no bearing on the subject. Capitalism sux in your world.


31 posted on 05/31/2013 4:24:08 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Last 3 years XOM spent an average of $32 billion in CapEx and averaged $28 billion in Free Cash Flow. This $100 million is not even a rounding error.


32 posted on 05/31/2013 4:31:30 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Monty22002; Conspiracy Guy

Monty,
Your memory needs a little update. Oil was about $30 a barrel all through the Clinton years. Here’s a chart:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=historical+world+oil+price+chart&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=historical+world+oil+price+chart&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&id=F5196AB68A6453B1D2FFF0989E3D02790966316B&selectedIndex=3


33 posted on 05/31/2013 4:32:18 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Disappointing. I love diesel motors, was hoping this algae stuff would work. Much smarter than turning our food into biofuel. I’ve owned a good bit of XOM stock for years. Pays dividends and rises predictably with the price of oil.


34 posted on 05/31/2013 4:36:36 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Monty said $.80/gal which is close to $30/ barrel. What he doesn’t understand is that is the price at the source not the price at the pump. He has worked down stream though. I got to run and get financial advice from my financial advisor’s barber. Later.


35 posted on 05/31/2013 5:24:11 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Monty22002
They are a part, but in the 90’s we were at this level of oil price and 80 cents a gallon.

BS. At that time, the price of oil never reached half of today's price.

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While gasoline prices were not that low.

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36 posted on 05/31/2013 5:52:26 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Monty22002

The oil prices of the 90’s wasn’t anywhere near where it is today.

The last half of the 90’s the OFF Program and the smuggling of Iraqi oil drove the price so low it caused a worldwide recession.

I had an oil lease, I was selling oil at the time and there was times I only got $12-$15 per barrel and that was because I waited for the price to go up to sell.

Hip waders aren’t high enough for your BS.


37 posted on 05/31/2013 6:30:15 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: thackney

I had a lease and was selling oil the last half of the 90’s.
The only reason the price of oil was as high as it was (now there’s a joke for you) the gatherers weren’t buying oil unless it met a very specific set of requirements.

In 1999 a lot of independent operators couldn’t sell their oil at any price.

Others were selling as low as $7.


38 posted on 05/31/2013 6:47:05 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: UCANSEE2
they could have invested that $100 million in drilling for oil and made a killing.

Except it wasn't an investment, it was either a bribe or protection money.

Partnered with "California-based SGI"?

I bet you anything that if you looked into SGI, you would find a money-laundering operation for OFA, or the Tides Foundation, or some similar Marxist organization.

At $100 million, Exxon probably got off cheap.

39 posted on 05/31/2013 6:50:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: IMR 4350
Others were selling as low as $7.

Even less than that in some places. Hard to believe how some kept in business.

Look at Average price Dec 1998 - Jan 1999:

Alaska North Slope First Purchase Price
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=F005071__3&f=M

40 posted on 05/31/2013 6:58:40 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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