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"Maybe what this is showing is that generation is more sensible than we give them credit for. They did, after all, grow up seeing their parents struggle with housing and car payments, and they're already saddled (in many cases) with stupid college loans." You can stop at the second bolded comment. Wonder how many put in a hitch with the USMC and came out dependent on anybody? Some I know still insist that a Universal Draft would be the best thing this country ever did; check with the Israelis and see how it is working for them.

>> "Maybe what this is showing is that generation is more sensible than we give them credit for. They did, after all, grow up seeing their parents struggle with housing and car payments, and they're already saddled (in many cases) with stupid college loans."
> Wonder how many put in a hitch with the USMC and came out dependent on anybody?

I did that w/ the Army -- Got a BS in CS [computer science] with no student debt, problem is the industry wants people with X years experience in the field for entry-level positions, and the only way to get experience in the field is to get one of those jobs. -- Much of the problem as I see it is that employers want people already utterly-qualified for the job (i.e. they are unwilling to train them); this attitude leads to a whole host of problems, one of which is that they generally don't want Computer Scientists but "Coders" [the difference being that of a Architect/Engineer and an average-Joe construction-worker].

I suspect that this is rather wide-spread, even outside my industry: that the companies are generally unwilling to invest in their people.