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Tony Blair says murder of Lee Rigby PROVES 'there is a problem within Islam'
DailyMail ^ | June 1, 2013 | Glen Owen

Posted on 06/01/2013 5:30:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana

Tony Blair today makes his most powerful political intervention since leaving Downing Street by launching an outspoken attack on ‘the problem within Islam’.

The former Prime Minister addresses the shocking killing of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich by going further than he – or any front-rank British politician – has gone before over the issue of Muslim radicalism.

Writing in today’s Mail on Sunday, he departs from the usual argument that Islam is a peaceful religion that should not be tainted by the actions of a few extremists.

Instead, Mr Blair urges governments to ‘be honest’ and admit that the problem is more widespread.

‘There is a problem within Islam – from the adherents of an ideology which is a strain within Islam,’ he writes.

‘We have to put it on the table and be honest about it. Of course there are Christian extremists and Jewish, Buddhist and Hindu ones. But I am afraid this strain is not the province of a few extremists. It has at its heart a view about religion and about the interaction between religion and politics that is not compatible with pluralistic, liberal, open-minded societies.’

He adds: ‘At the extreme end of the spectrum are terrorists, but the world view goes deeper and wider than it is comfortable for us to admit. So by and large we don’t admit it.’

SNIP

The former PM’s remarks come as David Cameron prepares to make a Commons statement about the Woolwich murder tomorrow afternoon.

The statement will come just hours after the first meeting of the Prime Minister’s Tackling Extremism and Radicalisation Task Force (TERFOR) – made up of senior Ministers, MI5, police and moderate religious leaders – tomorrow morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: captainobvious; england; islam; terrorists; wot
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1 posted on 06/01/2013 5:30:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Tony Blair says murder of Lee Rigby PROVES 'there is a problem within Islam'


2 posted on 06/01/2013 5:31:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

“‘There is a problem within Islam .”

Really, Tony. Ya think?


4 posted on 06/01/2013 5:33:54 PM PDT by miserare
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To: Tennessee Nana

Gee, ya don’t say...


5 posted on 06/01/2013 5:34:35 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Tony Blair says "Water is wet"
6 posted on 06/01/2013 5:35:23 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Will they arrest Tony for speaking against Islam and hurting Islamist wittle feeewings?


7 posted on 06/01/2013 5:37:13 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Hmmm, how many deaths and years did it take for him to come to that amazing discovery? Perhaps he could call Hussein and tell him that his religion (Hussein's religion, Islam) is killing people across the world and especially lots of Americans. I'm sure Hussein will be amazed at that discovery, too. /S/S/S
8 posted on 06/01/2013 5:38:12 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

The West needs to realize that their grandchildren are going to be religious, and that we have the opportunity to pick their religion.

If we go back to our churches, bring our families, and teach our children the value of Christian faith, our grandchildren will be Christian.

If we sleep in Sunday morning, ignore our Christian heritage and pursue our hedonistic desires, our grandchildren will be Muslims.

We get to choose.


10 posted on 06/01/2013 5:41:38 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gun Control Haiku: Say "Registration" / And they call you paranoid / So say "Privacy")
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To: Tennessee Nana

I an age where stating the obvious is increasingly dangerous to one’s life and position, I’ll give props to Tony Blair for saying this.


11 posted on 06/01/2013 5:48:57 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Christian extremists and Jewish, Buddhist and Hindu ones”

I notice Blair doesn’t care to cite any examples.

No such thing as a true Jew or Christian or Buddhist or Hindu that hack a person, a good person apart in the name of his religion

He’s part of the problem


12 posted on 06/01/2013 5:51:36 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Tennessee Nana

Mr. Fabian Socialist speaks.


13 posted on 06/01/2013 5:52:13 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Tennessee Nana

He is the first past or present political leader in the western world to say it. So I will give him kudos.


14 posted on 06/01/2013 5:53:44 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Calling Captain Obvious!
15 posted on 06/01/2013 5:56:44 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (, but you are right about the mood, tense)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Gee, uh, Tony...guess you shouldn’t have let so many of them in, eh?

Stupid bastard.


16 posted on 06/01/2013 5:58:00 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Tennessee Nana

Isn’t Blair responsible for all the Welfare and benifits the Muslims are getting? Especially, the wife of a Muslim Inman , who is living in a Million
Pound home, rent free?


17 posted on 06/01/2013 6:00:53 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Tennessee Nana

Watch it Tony. You don’t want to bad-mouth the muzzies. Earache Holder will be after you.


18 posted on 06/01/2013 6:13:23 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Tennessee Nana
"There is a problem within Islam – from the adherents of an ideology which is a strain within Islam . . ."

I have a problem with the word "within." It should be the word "with." There is a problem with Islam. No doubts about it.

19 posted on 06/01/2013 6:19:08 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: miserare; Tennessee Nana
Really, Tony. Ya think?

Blair must be given at least *some* credit.After all,many Western lefties...particularly European ones...absolute refuse to publicly acknowledge this as Blair did.

20 posted on 06/01/2013 6:26:34 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Looks like former prime minister Tony Blair is more conservative than John McCain, Mitt Romney, and they rest of the blood sucking GOP elite on the subject of Islam.


21 posted on 06/01/2013 6:33:45 PM PDT by o2bfree (Lindsey Graham is left of South Carolina.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Sorry Tony, the UKIP train has already left the station, and you’re one of the main reasons it exists.

They WILL NEVER trust you.


22 posted on 06/01/2013 6:35:17 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Say what you like about him, or say what I don’t like about him “new labour” Tony Blair gets it about the jihadis, better than most. in a way he’s like giuliani. this is the most important issue of our day people the world over want to chop our heads off, everything else pales in comparison.

These schumcks are like hitler are we getting it yet?


23 posted on 06/01/2013 6:36:58 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Tennessee Nana

Do you have that urge to murder you fellow man? Do you have a desire to do anything you want by putting words in God’s mouth?

The way I see it, if you have this urgent desire to kill innocent people like one would pull wings off a fly, then step up to the plate, kiss the Black Stone of Mecca and get a sharp knife. That’s all it takes. Just as easy as a click of the mouse.

Isn’t Islam nice?

Eternity with 72 virgins? No problem! It’s better than winning a loto ticket.

Rape a woman and get to stone her to death? Wow what fun! It’s better than baseball!

Pull the wings off a fly? Hell, you can’t eat flies with wings on them.


24 posted on 06/01/2013 6:37:40 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: BobL

I wonder if there was some treason going on...

that wopuld explain Blairs sudden change of heart

hes covering his butt...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3026287/posts


25 posted on 06/01/2013 6:38:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I’m with you. It will be hard to paint him as a right wing extremest. Will be interesting to see the response he gets.


26 posted on 06/01/2013 6:44:28 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obma; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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To: Tennessee Nana

ping


27 posted on 06/01/2013 6:58:41 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: BobL

Yep. That train has left the station.


28 posted on 06/01/2013 7:00:43 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Agreed.


29 posted on 06/01/2013 7:05:32 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

yep. Check out this scorcher vid from British Freedom Party. Weston calls BLAIR a traitor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG77qpLi4oc&feature=share


30 posted on 06/01/2013 7:32:36 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Irenic
Will they arrest Tony for speaking against Islam ...

If Homeland Security and the lawbreakers at the IRS had their way, Tony would be labeled an extremists and shot.

Luckily for us the MSM is catching on to how extreme Homeland and the IRS have become...

31 posted on 06/01/2013 8:11:18 PM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Bump


32 posted on 06/01/2013 8:20:48 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; sickoflibs
Writing in today’s Mail on Sunday, he departs from the usual argument that Islam is a peaceful religion that should not be tainted by the actions of a few extremists.

Instead, Mr Blair urges governments to ‘be honest’ and admit that the problem is more widespread.

‘There is a problem within Islam – from the adherents of an ideology which is a strain within Islam,’ he writes. ‘We have to put it on the table and be honest about it.

Blair's right - problems can't be solved when a culture has their heads stuck in the sand.

33 posted on 06/01/2013 8:24:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“‘We have to put it on the table and be honest about it. Of course there are Christian extremists and Jewish, Buddhist and Hindu ones. But I am afraid this strain is not the province of a few extremists. It has at its heart a view about religion and about the interaction between religion and politics that is not compatible with pluralistic, liberal, open-minded societies.’”

If a normal person made that statement in most of Europe, they could be jailed for a HATE CRIME.


34 posted on 06/01/2013 8:32:36 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: jonrick46
There is a problem with Islam.

In reality, the problem IS islam.

35 posted on 06/01/2013 9:08:16 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: stanne

These “equivalency” comparisons need to be called out every time some moron makes them. Examples need to be demanded until they are supplied (an impossibility although I’m predicting that some will make some vague allusion to the Crusades) or recanted.


36 posted on 06/01/2013 10:05:43 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: JLLH

Right. And:

The crusades, NOT good enough.

The Catholics went to save the Byzantines because the Muslims were attacking them.

People don’t know history, then they use some version of it in order to change the subject from the fact that no Christian nor Jew was ever incited by religion to go out and spontaneously.


37 posted on 06/01/2013 10:51:30 PM PDT by stanne
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Tennessee Nana.


38 posted on 06/02/2013 2:12:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: stanne

And that’s the point that needs to be hammered home over and over until it sticks: Islam is the ONLY religion that inspires and even mandates that others be killed if they cease or refuse to follow its tenets. They are killing for their faith. No other faith to my knowledge does or has done that.


39 posted on 06/02/2013 3:48:06 PM PDT by JLLH
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