[T-Bird45]

Ten clicks per month free on this newspaper site after that it's a pay site. As usual, the comments are the most illuminating part of the article. I've always found it hard to believe there are so many vociferous libs in such a red state.

I am now undertaking the effort to disentangle myself from AT&T, a major financial extorter behind this move by the BSA. Just yesterday, I cancelled an order for uVerse TV/Internet by them and now I need a home for my iPhones. Any suggestions???

As to the local BSA group in Tulsa, I have a commitment this fall with them that I will honor but will have to decline to support them in the future. My United Way contribution is going elsewhere, too. I'll do a one-time gift of a nominal amount to support my organization's effort but no more monthly giving.

[Jeff Head]

MY LETTER THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA REGARDING THEIR NEW POLICY

[MichaelCorleone]

I don’t see what there is to debate.

[ecomcon]

As usual, the comments are the most illuminating part of the article. I've always found it hard to believe there are so many vociferous libs in such a red state

Only active print or digital subscribers of the Tulsa World are allowed to post comments

The subscribers are majority liberals. Conservatives mostly loathe newspapers, as they are mostly leftist propaganda and agitation. It's the same with virtually every major newspaper. They attract liberal fascists like flies. Both as employees and readers.

[1010RD]

The real mistake is not reaching out to these openly ‘gay’ Scouts and ministering to them. We’ve been handed a golden opportunity. It’s political judo for us. We can flip this whole issue by ‘curing’ kids of homosexuality and exposing the molesters who started it or environments in which homosexuality thrives.

[squarebarb]

the comments have the usual vicious and vile homosexuals ranting; hate, fury, insult, insulting Christianity, all the talking points re: ‘The Bible doesn’t reaslly condemn homosexuality’ and ad hominem attacks on other commentors.

BUT -— all the commentors are making the basic mistake: it’s not about homosexual INDIVIDUALS but it’s about the big, wealthy, powerful gay organizatyions, which ave infiltrated the top ranks of almost all traditional organizations everywhere; the churches, the federal government, YM/YWCA, Boy Scouts, and many more. They infiltrate and do hostile takeovers. They are wallowing in money.

I have made this point over and over but few people get it. You will look vile and mean if you continue to attacks gays and lesbians as INDIVIDUALS. We should be taking a close look at the big gay ORGANIZATIONS.

There, I shouted.

[MAexile]

I've always found it hard to believe there are so many vociferous libs in such a red state.

Either that, or they're bigger loudmouths...

[manc]

the comments are done by paid left wing trolls.

Move on and other groups pay to have trolls and to sign up in multiple usernames and then post on various local papers and yes that includes not their locqal places but pretending to be in that town or city and ten pretending to say they have donated so much but will not anymore or they go to church but will not anymore or they are republican but they have got to extreme and they will now voted Dem\\\\
The left always and I mean always try to give the impression that they are a majority when infact many of their groups are worked by about 15 people up in a Boston office under about 50 group names

[dsrtsage]

Just change the name to NAMBSLA and be done with it

[bgill]

What’s to debate? Get out now. The BSA lost my support the minute they voted. I kicked the United Way to the curb 30 years ago.

[Elsie]

The United Methodist Church, a major supporter of Boy Scouts, has maintained that the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching.

Where did those BIGOTs!! ever get an idea like that???

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Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 

 

 

 

[Bryanw92]

>>I’ve always found it hard to believe there are so many vociferous libs in such a red state.

In a red state, every lib is vociferous. That’s how they appear to be such a large group and its a great weapon when used against the usually-silent conservatives.

[tbw2]

For those looking for alternatives to the Boy Scouts, here’s a good list of options.
Conservative Boy Scout Alternatives
http://tamarawilhite.hubpages.com/hub/Conservative-Boy-Scout-Alternatives

[darrellmaurina]

Bookmarked for later reference.

Nice to see a United Methodist church taking a conservative stance. Maybe, in Tulsa, that shouldn’t surprise me.

[GeronL]

What is there to debate?

Keep your children away!

[longtermmemmory]

There is nothing to debate. Support homosexual conduct = zero donations.

Over time no sane mother or father will expose their sons to this monstrous decision.