Posted on 06/04/2013 8:34:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The victory is already complete. Within a short time, openly “gay” Scout Leaders will be allowed. Guaranteed. And no one in the BS or their parents, or volunteers, will be allowed to utter one word against the “gay” life. That is also guaranteed. While the “gay” crap will be open and loud.
This was a decision at the highest level by a minority of leaders. Are your local troops any less today then they were yesterday? Did the scouts in your troop suddenly turn gay? So it is time to cut and run? Throw it all away because the activists scored a small victory?
Scouting needs the church more than ever now. Did you ever consider this might be part of His plan to bring those troubled youth into a place where they could be shown the True Way?
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Some people on the thread think that there is no need to get out of the BSA - keep the good with the bad, be a good influence, etc.
This is totally the wrong attitude, unless it veils an acceptance of homosexuality. The homos will rule the BSA, and everyone will shut up -- or even be forced to vocally support homosexual behavior, as everyone in the DOJ must, as silence is now taken to mean the homophobia evil of "disapproval".
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Jesus didn’t teach those who refused to listen to him, and from now on, the fags will rule the BSA. Either you have no clue about the goals and tactics of homosexuals and homosexual agenda pushers, and/or minimize the dangesr of same, or you think it’s fine to let boys be influenced by faggots.
“”The Bible says homosexuality is a sin. The Boy Scouts do not.”
Actually, the Bible says that homosexual behavior is a sin. “
“Homosexuality” = “homosexual behavior”.
Can you not truly see the difference? Those people are coming in to ‘overcome’ their additions. The homosexuals didn’t fight this to have your help...rather to force you to accept them and their sexual behavior. You may very well be arrested for calling it what it is if you try and change their behavior.
Churches do not need to be careful....this has gone far beyond the “careful” mode. You yourself said we are to “seek out” the lost....God never said bring them into the fellowship of the believers (church).
I do believe some posting here haven’t a clue about the homosexual agenda, the practice of homosexuality and what that entails...nor how God views people who practice this AND that they encourage others to do so.
Certainly they lack understanding of the “danger” or they wouldn’t be trying so hard to find “compromise” on that which God does not compromise. Another case of people putting everything else above the safety of children.
If sinner is a brother or sister in Christ who refuses to turn from that sin, 1 Corinthians 5 states we are to turn that person out. We are not to continue associating with such a person. The goal is always restoration of the sinner, but we cannot remain in fellowship with a open and unrepentent sinner...it would be tacit approval of the behavior.
The left has gone from expecting us to tolerate homosexuality to demanding that we celebrate it.
Yes and no. The new rule is to run and get someone to help . . . take the photos.
I completely agree with you, caww. However, I think there is a problem with the double-standard that I see in a lot of posters on FR - namely that if someone is caught in ANY sin except for homosexuality, there seems to be a program in the church to help them through it towards healing or deliverance, or whatever it is that denomination teaches. Alcoholism, drug addiction, lying, gluttony, dishonoring your mom and dad, and heterosexual sex addiction... apparently a Christian can do any of these, multiple times (because they are “struggling with it”), and suffer through the cycle of sin-repent, sin-repent, and still be accepted by the church. But, by God, if you have a mental disorder that makes you lust after your same sex, you are banished and shunned from the church.
Those who are pushing for universal acceptance of “FLAMING” homosexuality, meaning forcing their mental disorder on the church in order for us to proclaim that God is suddenly OK with sin... I’m with you! They should not be accepted as part of the church (although I think they should be considered a very challenging mission-field).
If you read my post, I think it was an honest take on the situation. I don’t think it is wise to thoughtlessly shun anything that has to do with homosexuality. There are people who are suffering from what up until recently was considered a mental disorder, who need spiritual counsel. I think most of them KNOW that it is wrong, but they jump into the agenda of ‘gay-rights’ because it is so much easier than fighting their disorder.
Is it because homosexuality is worse than alcoholism or pornography or divorce?
When is the last time you heard of an adultery pride parade?
When did it become acceptable to encourage or at best just stand by without uttering a word of disagreement when it comes to children engaging in sexual activity ESPECIALLY self destructive and intrinsically disordered sexual activity that comprises homosexual sex?
This push into the BSA is all about imposing acceptance of evil upon children.
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That’s right. Of the behavior, as you say.
Thoughtlessly? My actions are premised upon much thought and God's word -my well formed conscience. Everything that promotes homosexual sex is promoting evil.
And so it begins... And the really sad part is the BSA's National Leaders do not have the courage to pull these rebel troop's charters as they promised to enforce BSA's policy. They will just cower once again to gay activists. Afraid to cross them, they will turn a blind eye and allow them to continue defying BSA policy. The BSA has no idea how bad the legal and social repercussions will be of the can of worms they have opened up in changing their policy on open homosexuality. This is just an early "Exhibit A" as to why this was all a horrific mistake to inject sex and politics into the Boy Scouts.
Well that's the problem...homosexuality is NOT a mental disorder....if anything I can assure you practicing it does CREATE mental disorders for many and a whole hosts of difficulties.
It is not a double-standard....most homosexuals in the church now are not there to change their choice of behavior...they are there to persuade you to accept them as they are...and many are there to do just that.
Just as we have physicians to treat illnesses so to are their medical doctors etc. who treat homosexuals or those who have been so twisted by our educational systems they don't know what to do or think. This is where they should get there help.
It is wrong to assume the church is positioned to treat homosexuals....or for that matter alcoholics or gluttons. All should be getting the professional help they need first and foremost.
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So I think people saying that BSA is now condoning gay lifestyle is incorrect, or an overstatement. I still think the decision was wrong and will have bad consequences for BSA.
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