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State v. Zimmerman Hearing – June 6th 9am [EST] Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 6, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 06/06/2013 5:26:18 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, June 6th, the Defense and Prosecution will be back in court to discuss the various motions filed by both the Defense and the Prosecution.

It will be interesting to see Judge Nelson’s tone toward the defense.

This is their first encounter since the District Court of Appeals overruled Judge Nelson’s decision on the Benjamin Crump deposition.

Arguments today include: finalizing whether or not the State’s audio expert will be allowed to testify “expert testimony motions”;

The states motion to compel discovery;

The defense motion to eliminate certain phrases and words;

An odd defense motion for anonymity to protect a specific mystery witness ...

Then we get to the juicy stuff “Sanctions against the state for discovery violations” and the whistleblower testimony that might put BDLR on the hot seat.

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: aberaussie

Pogey factory. Pogies are a species of fish netted to be processed for fertilizer and animal feed. There are pogey boats operating out of Fernandina.


81 posted on 06/06/2013 9:57:53 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Uncle Chip
Someone else is going to get killed in this before it's over and it's gonna be a good guy with lotsa liars present.

What a disgusting system of justice. Shame on us.

Remember Crystal...goody two shoes of the Duke case. She's in jail for life cuz she killed her boyfriend.

Maybe if they had put her in jail before, the boyfriend would still be live. Anyone remember THAT killing in the news??

82 posted on 06/06/2013 10:32:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: All

It just resumed.


83 posted on 06/06/2013 10:41:58 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Uncle Chip
Hispanic men kill black men every day. The only reason the MSM jumped on this case was because they thought they had a white middle class conservative man as the villain. It's not just the IRS that targets conservatives, or the EPA, or Homeland - it's also the MSM. And all of them got their wrong information from the same source.
84 posted on 06/06/2013 10:44:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: Uncle Chip; sickoflibs; Liz
Hispanic men kill black men every day.

The MSM jumped on this case was because they thought they had a white middle class conservative man as the villain.

It's not just the IRS that targets conservatives, or the EPA, or Homeland - it's also the MSM - the New York Times etc... And all of them got their wrong information from the same source.

NBC, ABC, and CBS are going to have a difficult time covering this now... the last thing they want to expose is problems between two favored racial groups - both dem...

85 posted on 06/06/2013 10:47:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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George looks more alert to what’s going on in the courtroom today


86 posted on 06/06/2013 11:02:02 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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1000 more images that the prosecution had been hiding


87 posted on 06/06/2013 11:04:49 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Bernie is now accusing the defense of hiding discovery —


88 posted on 06/06/2013 11:19:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

I guess this must be one of those long breaks again. (I am cubicle-bound, can’t watch the thing live.)


89 posted on 06/06/2013 11:19:44 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Watching it live here

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/hearing-held-in-george-zimmerman-murder-case/-/1637132/20436614/-/72pit2z/-/index.html?showAds=0


90 posted on 06/06/2013 11:23:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Cyber Liberty

Steve Brenton from FDLE will be up next to try to save Bernie’s bacon.


91 posted on 06/06/2013 11:26:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

O’Mara just called Bernie to the stand but he refused. Now the judge is losing her temper at O’Mara.


92 posted on 06/06/2013 11:28:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Now it is getting hot. The judge wants to put this off until post trial. Court’s time is better spent on other things. She just cut O’Mara off. This line of inquiry is over. Nelson has spoken.


93 posted on 06/06/2013 11:30:12 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

What he wanted to say: Mr. O’Mara...you have an ace, don’t you?? Damn you O’Mara. Who do you think you are....Perry Mason??


94 posted on 06/06/2013 11:32:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Bronzy

A very casual observation: I have watched both the video from this morning and this one and I have noticed something which strikes me as somewhat funny although of no significance to this case.

At the end of this mornings video I noticed that the great seal on the wall was very crooked and at the latest break it was hanging straight on the wall. I was wondering earlier if anyone else noticed it and obviously someone must have because it got fixed.


95 posted on 06/06/2013 11:33:56 AM PDT by dglang
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To: Uncle Chip

Yes, thanks. Can’t watch it so I’m here hoping somebody will describe it. Eh...

From what I’ve been able to read from the website you sent, it appears Nelson has ruled 100% against Zimmerman so far, just as she’s been doing all along. There is an argument over what data has been turned over to the Defense. Apparently they have all the data retrieved from the phone, but no means of interpreting it because the Prosecutor is refusing to turn over a report on the contents. That’s like handing someone a copy of the alphabet and telling them they’re on their own to decipher Macbeth from it.

A techie witness apparently says he knows of evidence the Prosecution has but has not turned over to defense. From the descriptions of the missing contents, Nelson will probably throw it all out anyway, so it’s a big fight over what will amount to nothing.


96 posted on 06/06/2013 11:35:04 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Sacajaweau

Court is in recess. She just abruptly cut O’Mara off. He wanted Bernie to now take the stand and he refused and then he objected and gave the reason that the inquiry needs to continue. She wants it to take place after the conviction.


97 posted on 06/06/2013 11:35:24 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
I'm not a lawyer, and didn't stay at a Holiday Inn... if Judge shuts down hearing into prosecutorial misconduct WRT evidence withheld, presses to get this trial started on her timeline... and if, if Zimmerman is convicted... couldn't defense use the fact that the misconduct hearing was cut off, that the defense didn't have timely and complete access to all discovered evidence from prosecutor's office, as reason to have the whole damn (yet to be) trial thrown out?

It would seem to be the smarter thing to decide if the prosecutor has misbehaved badly before a crapload of taxpayer money is spent on what may later be proven to be a far from fair trial. But then I'm not a lawyer; just a dumb citizen who thinks she is seeing a man being railroaded...

98 posted on 06/06/2013 11:42:55 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: onemiddleamerican; Cboldt

Cboldt’s breakdown of the last few minutes at TL:

Bernardo is trying to make all digital files equivalent. The 2.3Gb phone data file being the same as a pdf of 10 pages of text. Bernardo insinuating that if information is produced on a CD, then it isn’t human readable.

Bernardo’s bottom line is “the evidence is in there,” referring to the source file. Apparently, depending on the skill of the person and capability of the software, more or less of the data in the source file is visible. Now Bernardo is insinuating that the failure of defense expert Connor to extract information isn’t the state’s problem. Bernardo says “you considered this your work product, right?” West says, “No, we produced it to you.” Now he says it took 6 months to disclose, and maybe the state should be seeking sanctions.

West was laughing, then, sort of called on it, said this situation wasn’t funny. “We caught you hiding information,” says West, “and confronted you with that.” Pretty heated.

Brenton will be called to present the state’s defense to this issue. Again with the threat of “we ought to file for sanctions too.” sh*t or get off the pot Bernardo.

Bernardo has no further questions. Redirect by O’Mara. How did defense get report from FDLE? West doesn’t recall, but thinks it came from SAO in electronic format the day of a hearing. This was about a month after Bernardo told Kruidbos that FDLE would prepare a report for defense. O’Mara asks if Bretton has prepared any report. West says the February version, and the recent June 4 submission.

How long did Mr. Connor work on extraction? West doesn’t know, but is confident it is in excess of 25 hours.

O’Mara wants to call Bernardo to the stand.

Nelson now complaining that this has gone on too long (it’s her fault for letting irrelevant testimony), and all this motion is about is money - this hearing is concluded. O’Mara says this is not just money damages. If Bernardo in fact lied, it is criminal contempt. Nelson says that can happen after trial too. It’s not an issue of witness or evidence exclusion. She concludes the sanctions portion of the hearing sua sponte. She’s pissed!!


99 posted on 06/06/2013 11:50:28 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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After 10 minute recess — now the Frye hearing.


100 posted on 06/06/2013 11:57:19 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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