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PD: Boy, 4, accidentally shoots, kills father
azfamily.com ^ | Jun 7, 2013 | Natalie Brand

Posted on 06/08/2013 7:41:22 AM PDT by KeyLargo

PD: Boy, 4, accidentally shoots, kills father

by Natalie Brand

azfamily.com

Posted on June 7, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Updated yesterday at 9:53 PM

PRESCOTT VALLEY, Ariz. -- A 4-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed his father at a home in Prescott Valley Friday, according to a spokesman for the Prescott Valley Police Dept.

Police have identified the victim as 35-year-old Justin Stanfield Thomas of Phoenix, a military veteran who served in the Army Special Forces. Detectives say he and his son were from Phoenix and they were visiting a friend at that home. The boy found a gun in the living room and accidentally shot his father.

"I really can't believe this happened," said Jeremy Hartt, a neighbor and friend of everyone involved. "It's tragic, that poor little boy."

Hartt said he didn't hear the gunshot but saw the aftermath. He said the friend Thomas was visiting is also a military veteran who keeps a loaded gun for protection.

"Apparently when Justin and his little boy showed up, within minutes, the little boy found the gun and said, 'hey, daddy, what's this?' and it went off," Hartt said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment
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Something does not seem right about this story.

Police seem to say that the case is closed and that the gun just went off?

Thoughts?

1 posted on 06/08/2013 7:41:22 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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Justin Stanfield Thomas
2 posted on 06/08/2013 7:44:24 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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It’s hard enough for a 4 year old to raise/trigger pull most guns.

Either way, sounds suspicious. They had better find powder residue on the boy and a fingerprint match on the gun.


3 posted on 06/08/2013 7:44:33 AM PDT by struggle
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Vic is 35, young enough to have been thoroughly indoctrinated in gummint skrewels before deciding to enlist ... guns bad/teach/stay away from guns

Thus would have at least SAID something to a 4 yr old boy ABOUT guns

visiting an equal warrior

And the kid asks; "What's this"?


I don't buy it.

4 posted on 06/08/2013 7:46:45 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I can't prove it, but they're true)
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Son of a gun....


5 posted on 06/08/2013 7:47:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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“I don’t buy it.”

I’m with you. Something’s not right.


6 posted on 06/08/2013 7:49:01 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: struggle

Yes, it doesn’t pass the smell test.

Could this have been a suicide?

Could his buddy have shot him intentionally or unintentionally?


7 posted on 06/08/2013 7:50:03 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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This seems curious to me.It takes a bit of effort to “fire”a handgun.It must have benn”cocked”but not”locked”,and had a “hair-trigger”?This is a VERY careless way to keep a gun handy!


8 posted on 06/08/2013 7:57:56 AM PDT by bandleader
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4 year olds today come in a larger standard size than those of the 60's or 80's.

I have no doubt that a 4 year old could do this. My 4 year old grandson certainly could. But he has been trained about firearms.

The problem is letting children into the house when you have loaded weapons.

I don't let my grandchildren into my home. They will be welcome, once they pass the NRA gun safety course.

/johnny

9 posted on 06/08/2013 8:00:06 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: KeyLargo

I agree something seems strange about this story.


10 posted on 06/08/2013 8:25:47 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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In any event the firearm should have been secured by the owner as soon as the child entered the owner’s residence.

Anyway I feel sorry for the family and the little son no matter what the outcome.

May the young man RIP.


11 posted on 06/08/2013 8:29:34 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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The kids in this family learn about guns and the strict rules involved while they are being potty trained.


12 posted on 06/08/2013 8:31:59 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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My son is 5 now, but even when he was 4 I taught him never to touch a weapon he finds. He’s on the autism spectrum, but he fully understands, just the same as not to talk to strangers.
This seems so awful. I feel so bad for that child.


13 posted on 06/08/2013 8:36:10 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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"Police said they are investigating Thomas' death as a homicide - as they do anytime someone dies of anything other than natural causes.

"At this point, it does appear that this is just a tragic accident from this child, and we will look to see if there's any negligence issues there," said Prescott Valley police Sgt. Brandon Bonney. "But, at this point, the information we have is it's just a tragic accident that was unforeseen."

14 posted on 06/08/2013 8:39:17 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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For miles from my home, and one hour after a friend stopped by to show me his .380. We understood safety and treated the firearm with respect. Either they were terribly stupid or there is more, much more to the story.


15 posted on 06/08/2013 8:40:00 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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Store where most adults wouldn’t see, find, or reach.


16 posted on 06/08/2013 8:45:42 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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it does sound strange, given the men’s backgrounds and the strnge statement about the child wondering what it was. he would know at 4 what it was, with a military father. and also not to touch it because he would know it was not a toy.


17 posted on 06/08/2013 8:51:08 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Sure, I get that this father and son may have just showed up at that guy’s house and said guy probably didn’t have time or thought to put away his guns. But what’s with parents letting their kids rummage around in someone’s house? Back in the day, we knew not to go snooping around or messing with what wasn’t ours. I don’t ever remember being told not to play with guns but we just didn’t. But then no one gave guns a second thought unlike today when they are big scary monsters. Again, we didn’t touch what wasn’t ours. If kids didn’t rule the house and if parents actually parented, we wouldn’t be reading about this.


18 posted on 06/08/2013 8:51:35 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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Could his buddy have shot him intentionally or unintentionally?

That seems far more likely.

19 posted on 06/08/2013 8:55:01 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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I never believe stories like this. It is very difficult for a small boy or girl to fire either an automatic pistol or a revolver. There is much more to the story than printed.


20 posted on 06/08/2013 9:00:04 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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