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Firstly, the UK-US difference has more to with classification of crime rather than the UK being rampantly more violent than the US.

That's a lie and both you and your buddy Piers Morgan know it.

By any definition one uses for muggings, rapes, burglaries, robberies and murders the UK is almost exponentially more violent than the United States.

There are more muggings, rapes, burglaries, robberies, murders, beatings, etc.. in the U.K. per 100,000 people than in the U.S.

That's fact.

It's also fact that on the list of most violent countries according to U.N. Statistics (something you socialists should be embracing) the U.K. is in the top 100 most violent countries in the world. The United States isn't even in the top 100.

Take your bullshit lies elsewhere.

Gun Murders in England, Scotland and Wales 2011/12

‘There were 640 Murders / Homicides in Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) in 2011/12 (10.43 per million population)

Of these 640 Murders / Homicides, 44 involved a gun or firearm as the main weapon.

Gun murders in Britain in 2011/12 represent 6% of the murder cases, (0.72 gun homicides per million population).’

http://www.citizensreportuk.org/reports/murders-fatal-violence-uk.html

1—I despise Morgan, and everyone here knows it. I have said so many times. He faked photos of Iraqis being beaten by British troops, and as an ex-British Para, I have twice the reason to despise him as most civilian British already do.

2—I also have stated many times that I am a conservative. Ex-Tory, now UKIP. I have never been a socialist, and think it is a ruinous ideology.

3—Why the need to be so rude?. By all means, debate me on crime figures, but no need to attack me personally.

BTW, I agree that % wise, burglaries and muggings are higher in the UK, but rape figures are equal, and the US murder rate is FOUR times the UK’s. And the US gun murder rate is SIXTEEN times the UK’s.

There are 28 different types of assault on the UK statute books. Whilst nobody, least of all me, would disagree that the UK is more violent than it was, the fact is that classification of crime in the UK definately skews the figures and makes the UK look more violent than it is.

Otherwise, you have to believe that the UK has gone from a nation famous for being polite and virtually crime free to a nation so violent, it is more violent than the US, a nation notorious for city crime, gang violence and which has 75% of all the world serial killers living in it, a nation who has 15000 people murdered by guns every year.

Do you, or any American, honestly think Britain is a far more violent nation than the US. Really?. More violent than it was 50 or even 25 yrs ago, but worse than the US, with all your violence?. Really?.

I am 43 this year. I have been the victim of crime ONCE in my 25 yrs as an adult living in the UK. The last 25 yrs where crime in the UK has risen.

You also forget one huge fact: that the rise in UK crime comes from a level of violence that was almost non-existant. Britain was until recently a nation where famously violence (murders, rapes) were incredibly low, and the famous British bobby didnt need anything except his trusty truncheon. America was famous for being very violent. Britain was famous for being the complete opposite.