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Duke Grad Student Secretly Lived In A Van To Escape Loan Debt
San Francisco Chronicle / SFGate.com ^ | Published 12:53 pm, Friday, June 7, 2013 | Mandi Woodruff, provided by Business Insider

Posted on 06/09/2013 1:47:23 PM PDT by thecodont

By the time Ken Ilgunas was wrapping up his last year of undergraduate studies at the University of Buffalo in 2005, he had no idea what kind of debt hole he'd dug himself into.

He had majored in the least marketable fields of study possible –– English and History –– and had zero job prospects after getting turned down for no fewer than 25 paid internships.

"That was a wake-up call," he told Business Insider. "I had this huge $32,000 student debt and at the time I was pushing carts at Home Depot, making $8 an hour. I was just getting kind of frantic."

Back then, student loans had yet to become the front page news they are today. Ilgunas could have simply deferred his loans or declared forbearance. He also could have asked his parents (who were more than willing to help) for a leg up. He could have thrown up his hands and gone to grad school until the job market bounced back.

Instead, he moved to Alaska and spent two years paying back every dime. And when he enrolled at Duke University for graduate school later, he lived out of his van to be sure he wouldn't have to take out loans again.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Duke-Grad-Student-Secretly-Lived-In-A-Van-To-4587684.php#ixzz2VkomCLBJ

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: academia; colleges; dukeuniv; studentdebt; universities
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To: dfwgator

Excellent skits - among the best.


21 posted on 06/09/2013 2:41:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

yes some colleges do charge more than they are worth.

so do some groceries

ps:
‘i don’t choose to partronize those ‘Whole Paycheck” groceries


22 posted on 06/09/2013 2:44:46 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: ansel12
ansel12 said: What was the “secret” part about living in his van, and was it to save money, or “escape” something?

When the University learned of the situation, they clarified that such was not to be allowed. By maintaining a low profile, he escaped the consequences of doing something that he was sure would not be approved or tolerated.

23 posted on 06/09/2013 3:03:42 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Bronzy

I type slow :(


24 posted on 06/09/2013 3:11:31 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: SamAdams76

Yeah, $32,000 in student loans is relatively small, compared to the debt that some students are carrying. I remember reading about a young woman who earned a BA in Sociology at Boston University, and financed her education with student loans. After four years at that school, her student loan debt was $200,000.

The good news is that emerging market forces will begin to lower tuition costs—for students willing to look for affordable programs. One case-in-point is the $7,000 M.S. in Computer Science that Georgia Tech will begin offering later this year, in conjunction with AT&T and other partners. Texas also has several bachelor’s programs (offered through state schools) that leverage community college credits. Students in those programs can earn their bachelor’s for $10,000.


25 posted on 06/09/2013 3:17:22 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: William Tell

I didn’t see that in the article, where is it?


26 posted on 06/09/2013 3:17:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKbCMndXjgc


27 posted on 06/09/2013 3:30:19 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: thecodont

I like how Duke banned future possible van-living endeavors. How very tolerant and understanding of them.


28 posted on 06/09/2013 3:40:13 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: thecodont
Kudos to him. However, if he couldn't afford Duke without loans, go someplace cheaper. Counselors steer students toward their dream college, cost be damned.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss liberal arts. We need them to learn about our culture. In English you learn to communicate and construct logical arguments. History is important - if you don't learn it, you'll repeat it. In both of these majors, you learn there's nothing new under the sun, from Greek history to Greek plays, that human hubris and foibles have been with us from the beginning of time. Why do you think Common Core wants to do away with literature and replace it with technical reading? Dumb them down until they don't remember what freedom was and destroy all vestiges of Western culture. Unfortunately the revisionist history being taught now is helping to destroy the culture as well.

29 posted on 06/09/2013 4:05:10 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: SamAdams76

You apparently did not read the article...he paid it off, every last stinkin’ dime. And he was not employed in any kind of a high paying job, like you probably are.


30 posted on 06/09/2013 4:14:04 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Joe 6-pack

Why can’t he teach high school History or English? Teaching pays well, I hear. Someone who loves History or English enough to major in it would seem waaaay more qualified than an ‘education’ grad, I would think.


31 posted on 06/09/2013 4:23:35 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Joe 6-pack

And studying English and History should give one a deep and widely useful understanding of Man.

Propaganda, though, gives one less than nothing.


32 posted on 06/09/2013 4:32:51 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: faithhopecharity

SUCH AMAZING BRILLIANCE

***
Not to mention lack of moral compass.


33 posted on 06/09/2013 4:43:01 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: sportutegrl
I give this guy props for paying off his loans. But in 2005, the economy was doing VERY well, with unemployment at around 5.5%. WHY couldn't he find a decent job?

English and history are great, but what kind of job did he THINK he would get with a BA?

And finally I must have missed the ending. What has he been doing for the past 8 years? Besides writing a book?

34 posted on 06/09/2013 4:49:49 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: Bigg Red

well, if they didn’t learn any morals from the parents (and many didn’t)
and they didn’t learn any morals from their churches (and many churches are now preaching just the opposite of morals)

they sure won’t learn any morals from (maybe 90% ) of their professors on today’s anti-American,anti-Christian, anti-Semitic campuses (campii?)


35 posted on 06/09/2013 4:57:32 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: thecodont

Loans? But......college be free?

36 posted on 06/09/2013 5:09:15 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: boop

Yes, you must have missed the ending, because the article clearly explains the chronology. Go to the Business Insider link and they have pictures.


37 posted on 06/09/2013 5:21:32 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: Libloather

I did the same thing when I was in graduate school. Had a second battery just to run the electrical gadgets, comfortable bed, stereo, heater, and it was well insulated.

Parked the van next to the sports fieldhouse where I would shower, use the spa and sauna, and swim every morning.

I often joked that I have slept in the parking lots of some of the most expensive hotels in the country!


38 posted on 06/09/2013 5:28:11 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: thecodont

How many are living in Vans because they have no money?


39 posted on 06/09/2013 6:12:23 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: gaijin

I would point out that a degree in applied mathematics is usually a Liberal Arts degree. Most people with that degree can land a whole range of jobs.

Not that I advocate taking out loans for college. I have never done so and generally have parlayed my contract into have my employer pay for my college credits.


40 posted on 06/09/2013 6:16:50 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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