Posted on 06/10/2013 4:44:58 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Congratulations, you just got the most ridicules post of the day award!
What a hoot!
Just a quick question: Do you have to wait until you are getting your head smashed into the pavement before you can take steps to defend yourself with a firearm?
And if so, just how are you assured you will be conscience enough to act defensively if you take a hard hit that drives you to the ground?
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Maryland State Police Spokeswoman Elena Russo said the autopsy on Harvey showed he was shot three times. “None of the wounds showed evidence of being fired at close range,” she said.
No, just evidence that while the statement is hyperbolic, the problem is not rare and becoming more common.
Pretending it isn’t happening, doesn’t make it go away.
Pretending it is happening everyday doesn't make it true, does it?
I assume you mean "ridiculous."
Please explain why this is so.
Are there not many circumstances on the road when stopping, rather than continuing on, is the safer option?
I already gave you one - are you saying that you prefer to remain on the road when someone else is driving erratically or dangerously?
In 2011, according to data I have collected, police officers in the United States shot 1,146 people, killing 607. Since January 1, 2011, I have been using the internet to compile a national database of police involved shootings. The term "police involved shooting" pertains to law enforcement officers who, in the line of duty, discharge their guns. When journalists and police administrators use the term, they include the shooting of animals and shots that miss their targets. My case files only include instances in which a person is either killed or wounded by police gunfire. My data also includes off-duty officers who discharged their weapons in law enforcement situations. They don't include, for example, officers using their firearms to resolve personal disputes.
http://jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com/2012/01/police-involved-shootings-2011-annual.html
This statistic is a little old, but if you add dogs, then it's pretty close to every day.
The Kleck study shows that police shoot and kill around 600 criminals each year. Yet the University of Chicago study shows that police killed 330 innocent individuals in 1993. That means that for every two criminals killed by police, one innocent citizen is killed by police. Although I have the greatest respect for the police and how they must respond under pressure, I think that I would much rather trust an armed populace.
http://actionamerica.org/guns/guns1.shtml
Seems to me the local police and DA knows more than us.
Let’s not forget that he’s currently in jail based on this. If it was self defense, there'd probably be no arrest (and I acknowledge this is an assumption, also. But cops don’t arrest cops generally unless it is a very blatant crime).
From the article: Troopers charged Walker on Sunday with second degree murder and manslaughter, and he remains in a Maryland jail on $1 million bond.
Pretending doesn't make it true, does it?
From the article: Troopers charged Walker on Sunday with second degree murder and manslaughter, and he remains in a Maryland jail on $1 million bond.
“....he remains in a Maryland jail on $1 million bond.”
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I hope it remains at that level; but it’s early in the game. Fortunately Anne Arundel county is one of the more conservative (relative to the mad-dog progressism dominating other nearby areas of Maryland) localities. His attorneys may well request a change of venue if this proceeds.
Do the math, dude. In 1993 they shot over 300 INNOCENT persons. Add dogs (an uncollected stat) and it would easily be every day. And that is just innocent peeps. Add in actual criminals, it comes to several a day by 2011 statistics.
So I guess it is true. Cops shoot people and dogs every day.
The same gun fact website states the police error rate is 11% versus a 2% civilian rate.
Doesn’t matter which way you slice it, LEO have become thugs operating with near impunity in many jurisdictions.
There is a problem and technology has ramped up the ability of the average citizen to document and expose it.
Actually, no there aren't. Unless you can stop in a well lit area with other people, the more the better, you are better off continuing on while dialing 911 to report the make, model and license of the vehicle harassing you. Honking your horn and turning on your flashers to attract the attention of other drivers (and spur additional 911 calls) is also a good idea.
Confrontation is the more dangerous situation. A pissing match with a total stranger on an on ramp is always stupid. Unless you're a comic book super hero, nothing good will come of it.
If the aggressor pulled off, I would keep on going.
When the aggressor remains on the road, I pull off.
Remaining on the road with a person who is trying to provoke an accident is a terrible idea.
What is “close range?”
Someone getting within arms reach can certainly take you down (and out) before you have a chance to fire.
I think I read 21 feet is about the closest you can allow someone to come, any closer than that and you can’t avoid direct physical contact. . .and try shooting someone that unexpectantly bolts at you from 21-feet.
That isn't documentation that cops murder citizens and dogs every day, is it dudette?
Link please. Interesting stats.
Pulling over may be viewed as an invitation to confront and certainly gives them the opportunity.
Slowing down and moving over so that they can then forge ahead is a better option. Certainly they can have the road if they want it, but I would not stop on the shoulder of any highway unless forced to by mechanical failure.
These two nimrods stopped on an on ramp.
“If it was self defense, there’d probably be no arrest”
Ask George Zimmerman about that.
;-)
Links are in post 64.
tnx
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