Posted on 06/10/2013 7:31:41 AM PDT by maggief
“My party is all good and the other party is all bad” is usually the way of talk radio and many politicians, and woe unto those who dare to criticize Rush Limbaugh here. What we’re seeing with the recent outrages — acknowledged by both D’s and R’s to have been supported and put into place by both D’s and R’s — is that the False Choice Fallacy is becoming obvious.
The libertarians especially have long been able to paint R’s and D’s with the same brush on some issues — increasing intrusion of big government, increasing spending regardless of economic circumstances, support for government malfeasance at every level — and now we are seeing that it’s not necessarily D’s vs R’s, it’s as much Constitutionalists vs post-Constitutionalists. The latter group certainly has included many R’s for quite some time.
Dead.
“So am I a former conservative?”
Maybe. To be determined.
There’s a lot of room between “I’m not sure that this guy is a hero” to “the worst form of treason”.
Snowden told us with proof what we previously suspected. There is a significant difference.
Snowden could of done all of this anonymously ala Deep Throat. He outed himself for the 15 minutes of fame.
The WaPo was in contact with the Feds. He wouldn’t have been anonymous long in this environment.
Maybe the Obama spy ring has something on him, too . . .
CityCenter: “Did Snowden really tell us anything we didnt already know?”
We suspected the government was tracking sites like Free Republic and collecting all email traffic, but now we know they almost certainly do. Oh, it’s not like they read everything. They just collect and store it all for later use.
As Snowden explained in his interview, the infrastructure for Big Brother is being laid, and the only thing that prevents that infrastructure from being used for nefarious purposes (if it already isn’t), is a policy change.
I’ll give Bolton the benefit of the doubt at this point and say the information is only used to combat terrorism. However, Bolton apparently doesn’t understand the immense power we are giving the government. Frankly, I just don’t trust the government to never use that power against US citizens, even if it’s being used more carefully right now.
Usually,I agree 100% with John Bolton but this time I don’t.He said that Snowden has committed”Treason”because he thought he was doing”The Right Thing”and yet the other 299.999 million of us think otherwise?Mr. Bolton fails to take into account the fact that the rest of us NEVER would have found out what was going on at The NSA without Edward Snowden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now he is a “soiled” conservative.
Now he is a “soiled” conservative.
Exactly. There are only two sides in this: those who defend and enable the surveillance blackmail state apparatus, and those who demand it be dismantled.
At this point I now assume anyone in power who defends the NSA on this is a secret pervert deathly afraid of their Google searches being revealed.
Bolton just made the list.
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Congrats on your cynical surrender...
John has gone over to the dark side lately.
“Did Snowden really tell us anything we didnt already know?”
Well, considering all the furor in the press, by the MSM, by the pundits on all TV stations, by the fact that this is leading the news everywhere, and by the reaction of the U.S. populace, yes, I would say most people didn’t know, and how would they? You think everyone in the country reads Free Republic? Sheeesh....
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