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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I believe that we may be seeing a ‘transformational’ moment in history here. No, not the type that Obama wanted.

No, this moment now, as a result of the IRS, NSA disclosures is when the old meaning of “Left” vs. “Right” will no longer be meaningful to describe the new battle lines.

From this moment forward we will have a new more pressing re-alignment of battle lines between...

1. STATISTS - those who support giving up their right to privacy, freedom of expression, and constitutional liberties in support of a STATIST DICTATORSHIP BY THE RULING CLASS (lawmakers and bureaucrats)

vs

2. PATRIOTS - those who their right to privacy, freedom of expression, and constitutional liberties in support of a government (lawmakers and bureaucrats) that is held accountable to it’s citizens.


77 posted on 06/10/2013 5:44:12 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: LibFreeUSA

Thank you for your post. I agree wholeheartedly.


80 posted on 06/10/2013 5:46:08 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: LibFreeUSA

Well, sure.

But how do you handle that wonderful compartmentalization when someone who ostensibly falls into category #2 because they do a single thing that supports that category, but also simultaneously:

1.) Supports someone who despises capitalism and property rights and is doing all they can to destroy them

2.) Supports someone who believes in the government as the source of largesse for redistribution of wealth

3.) Supports someone who believes the right to keep and bear arms is archaic and should be taken away

4.) Supports someone who believes unions are wonderful and should have the weight of the government thrown behind them

5.) Supports someone who believes that industry is evil and should be crushed in favor of governmental programs?

Because even though this guy was a Ron Paul supporter (odious enough in my eyes, as anyone who garners the support of the putrid Code Pinkos is fatally flawed) in his exact words he said: “...I believed in Obama’s promises...”

Just how do we have a nice, neat categorization for that? I think the basic premise of the redefinition as you describe it is flawed. I think it is a good try at a transformational explanation (or prediction) but I don’t think it works.


94 posted on 06/10/2013 6:01:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: LibFreeUSA

I do think that this type of situation does provide fodder for the “redefinition”, and the number of posts here and elsewhere are proof of that.

I simply don’t think that redefinition can take place in this context, and the way you cleave the two.

I am sincere when I say “nice try” though, because it is thought provoking.


99 posted on 06/10/2013 6:04:13 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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