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Are Catholics to be Unwelcome in the Editorial Offices of Major Newspapers? [Card. Francis George]
CNS News ^ | June 11, 2013 | Terence P. Jeffrey / Card. Francis George

Posted on 06/11/2013 6:30:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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Cardinal George is saying Catholics could be driven out of all the professions (education, healthcare, journalism, government) because of irreconcilable conflicts related to the sanctity of life and the sanctity of sex.

I'm glad he brought up the abject complicity of Catholic politicians themselves, starting with John F. Kennedy.

One can also add the abject complicity of "Catholic" Universities, "Catholic" Hospitals and healthcare systems, "Catholic" Charities, even "Catholic" theologians, largely because of the feeble or nonexistent oversight and discipline by capon "Catholic" bishops.

Cardinal George is generally and rightly considered a "good guy," , plus Cardinal Cordileone and Bishop Aquila and a few others. But the rest?

As for Catholics in government, law, healthcare, journalism and the other professions: there will always be plenty of opportunities, red-carpet treatment and rewards varying inversely with their fidelity to the Faith.

The powers-that-be in these professions have the same slogan as Mammon, Moloch and Mephistopheles:

The only good Catholic is a bad Catholic.

1 posted on 06/11/2013 6:30:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Uh... I don’t want to burst your bubble, Cardinal, but they already are unwelcome.


2 posted on 06/11/2013 6:33:16 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
h/t to Mrs. Don-o!

Catholic ping.

3 posted on 06/11/2013 6:43:13 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: Jack Hammer

The real question is...when will Catholic churches be closed by order of the POTUS? How long til Catholics are imprisoned for their beliefs?

Within twenty years?


4 posted on 06/11/2013 6:44:14 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The Bishops failed in their sacred duty to formally and publicly excommunicate heretics. So called self described “Catholic” politicians who actively promoted the wholesale killing of innocent human life, were not only guilty of crimes against humanity but were in clear ongoing violation of Church law and teaching. The failure to excommunicate gave these lowlifes invaluable cover and confused the faithful. The Church has suffered as have faithful Catholics because of the temerity of the Bishops.


5 posted on 06/11/2013 6:50:14 AM PDT by allendale
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To: NYer; Mrs. Don-o; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; ...
Exactly what's needed, one more harrumphing American Cardinal publishing a strong message in an unread location.

Get off your holy duff, your Excellency, gather a few more Cardinals and publicly excommunicate abortion-supporting politicians. Have them publicly escorted away from the communion rail.

Publicly. You want to write? Write an open letter to every pastor publicly excommunicating the pols, to be read from the pulpit every Sunday for a month. Start with Joey Plugs, Sebelius, The Idiot Cuomo. Public Excommunication. Got it?

6 posted on 06/11/2013 6:56:48 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Amen brother.


7 posted on 06/11/2013 7:02:32 AM PDT by allendale
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To: allendale
Stand by for a harsh statement.

Most American Catholics apparently think the Democrat Party is the same party that ran Harry Truman.

NEWSFLASH!

One can simply no longer be a Christian nor a Patriot and vote for the Democrat candidate for anything. Furthermore, IMNVHO, this explains the disgustingly low turnout among otherwise good people. They cannot bring themselves to vote for Dear Old Dad's Democrat Party, but neither can they bring themselves to vote any other way. Result? They stay home. They are the "Reagan Democrats." Unfortunately, they have found no one else to overcome the inertia.

As far as I am able to tell, the Catholic clergy itself tends Democrat. 53% of Catholics voted for a late term abortion supporter for President. What % stayed home?

8 posted on 06/11/2013 7:15:43 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
If Catholics are to be closeted and marginalized in a secularized society, Catholic parents should prepare their children to be farmers, carpenters and craftsmen, small business people and workers in service industries . . .

He seems to have left out commandos.

9 posted on 06/11/2013 7:16:49 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Don’t worry. They still have biology and cosmogony.


10 posted on 06/11/2013 7:18:21 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Its also a failure of clear teaching. The Bishops failed to excommunicate but Catholic institutions have also failed. In the 1980’s Cardinal O’Connor was fighting a heroic fight against the abortionists and was dueling with Mario Cuome ( who he failed to excommunicte). The Jesuits historically had been the intellectual sword of the Church and were expected to give O’Connor tactical support. Sadly the Jesuits at Fordham did virtually nothing to help him and in fact undercut his efforts. The Jesuits have devolved into an unspeakable lot. The biggest scam going is when Catholic parents pay $60,000 per year sending their kids to a Jesuit college for “a Catholic education”.


11 posted on 06/11/2013 7:26:42 AM PDT by allendale
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Several million white Evangelicals that made it to the polls in 2008 did not leave the comfort of their homes in 2012. Overall, in 2008 62% of those eligible to vote, voted; in 2012, that dropped 4 whole percentage points to 58%.

This 4% doesn't translate directly into Obama's 4% margin of victory in 2012, but better poll-crunchers than I are also scratching their heads. A friend remarked that Evangelical contacts who voted for McCain in 2008 stunned him in 2012 with announcements that they were not voting. He says a dozen Christian leaders were touting a new found “Christian Ethic” of not voting. “Not Voting, is a vote for Jesus!” to quote just one guy's Facebook page.

Am I blaming white Evangelicals for Obama's 2012 electoral success? No, it was fully a product of Evangelicals, Mainline Protestants, Catholic, Jews, secular-agnostics and aheists, of all ages, both sexes and all races, acting or failing to act more or less as expected.

There really weren't any big switches between 2008 and 2012... except that confounded increase in non-voters.

12 posted on 06/11/2013 7:54:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Woe to those who call evil good and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness.")
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Back in Ye Olden Days, well before your time, "The Bible Belt" was 100% + Democrat. Perhaps then, my theory of basic Democrats who feel cheesy about voting for Communist Abortion Providers, but still cannot bring themselves to pull a Republican lever, works for them, too.

But we are talking Catholics here. I am not blaming Obama's victory on Catholics alone, just pointing out that over half of them who did vote, voted for the Communist Baby Killer.

That is incomprehensible, not to mention reprehensible. Ditto, the American Cardinals who cannot seem to hitch up their purple drawers and do the right thing.

13 posted on 06/11/2013 8:03:32 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And there was a time back when immigrants from Italy, Ireland, etc. flocked to the United States where a sign would appear in windows about Catholics not being welcome.

Is this coming back? It would seem so.


14 posted on 06/11/2013 8:05:42 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Catholics Need Not Apply"
15 posted on 06/11/2013 8:07:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

 

First They Came for the Jews

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

~Pastor Martin Niemöller

Community and individuality are not opposites. People cannot survive on their own. When the odds are stacked against you, you must rally with the oppressed and hated.

When a growing oppressive regime is taking hold, you must act, otherwise you will soon face your enemy alone and hopeless.

Strength of community is a strength as much as individualism, as long you are willing to face weaknesses in your own community. Ignoring slacking values will mean that you will be rallied against by those you oppress.

Niemöller affirms we must rally against unhealthy organized regimes. We must also stay vigilant with those that appear to be good natured, as all organisation attracts corruption. Niemöller also warns us that if it is you who are corrupt, then you will face a stronger combined force of foe!

~Vexen Crabtree


16 posted on 06/11/2013 8:08:12 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Biology and cosmogony have my vote!
(And, no doubt, His...)


17 posted on 06/11/2013 8:11:51 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Woe to those who call evil good and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness.")
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18 posted on 06/11/2013 9:12:41 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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Am I blaming white Evangelicals for Obama's 2012 electoral success?

It makes sense to not blame Christian denominations who vote 80% against democrats, for democrat victories, it does make sense for conservative political activists to point out Christian denominations that do vote democrat, like the catholic denomination for instance, especially on threads that imply that the Catholics are the Christians resisting the left and their agenda.

19 posted on 06/11/2013 12:02:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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I understand your point. Since we're accurately praising and blaming, let's also praise the millions of Catholics and Evangelicals who DO vote in accord with Catholic and Evangelical faith and morals, and blame the millions of Catholics and Evangelicals who, especially in 2012, turned tail and did not vote.

This is especially appropriate on a thread where no one named or blamed ANY Evangelical denomination --- neither in the article nor in the comments --- and the subject was what's going to happen to faithful Catholics.

Because this is exactly what' s going to happen to faithful Evangelicals, too: exclusion from the institutions and professions where our convictions clash directly with the Culture of Moloch.

Keep the tagline in mind...

20 posted on 06/11/2013 12:31:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately." - Benjamin Branklin)
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