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Is Gen Y Loyal to Employers?
MainStreet.com ^ | 6-11-13 | Michael P. Tremoglie

Posted on 06/12/2013 7:52:31 AM PDT by William Tell 2

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To: Mr. K

Yep, young developers and Indians can’t code for crap. It is all about plug-ins to make plug-ins work and open source. None of them can write real old fashion code that doesn’t depend on several third party libraries and frameworks, but they can dazzle you with the latest speak from some blog somewhere.


21 posted on 06/12/2013 9:59:22 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: CodeToad

Sorry I go to work to work. I don’t need ping pong tables and group outings to make me work better. Respect my work and compensate me or I will leave not because I am expected to sit at my desk most of the day and not play darts every 30 minutes and call it brainstorming.


22 posted on 06/12/2013 10:00:55 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ClearCase_guy

Like +1.


23 posted on 06/12/2013 10:02:14 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Perdogg

Exactly, I’ve been working about 20 years now, and every employer wants your loyalty, and nearly every one I have ever worked for or with has no qualms cutting folks lose in a heartbeat, 25 years of dedication doesn’t matter.. here meet mr H1B now train him to replace you and have fun finding a job at 60.

They days where Loyalty was given and expected, and to be disloyal to your employer was a major ordeal. Today, loyalty is a mouthpiece word from employers, it is not given but they give it lip service.

In today’s economy and work environment, the only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.. if that loyalty coincides with your employers, great, if it doesn’t you have to look out for yourself at all times first.

Sad but true fact of life.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 10:13:23 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Perdogg

Exactly, I have no loyalty to those that have none to me. Get everything in writing up front, including the severance package.


25 posted on 06/12/2013 10:30:15 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: William Tell 2

Loyalty to employers ended in the 1990s. The CEOs wanted us to think of ourselves as independent contractors and we are.

They are just a tool for us. As we are for them.


26 posted on 06/12/2013 10:33:10 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: buffaloguy

I think pensions were the last vestige of loyalty-producing behavior. When those went away, it was a new ball game.

The biggest reason for “loyalty” today for most employees is the Baraqqi Depression. There’s no place else to go....


27 posted on 06/12/2013 10:36:15 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I worked with a TON of them

We have effectively brain-drained the whole country

They talk a good game, can recide from memory the C# syntax, but can’t code for $hit.

I interview with a ton of these guys. Whenever anyone asked about some obscure c# class or attribute I say “I don’t know what that is, I’ve never had a need to use it” and then if they act all superior I ask THEM about some obscure code that I have used and how they would adapt it to accept data from a hardware device connected to a serial port.

I swear hardly any of them knew how to make an event handler to handle process the input. And the ones that did prcessed it a character at a time, until I asekd them about data coming in at 128kbaug and how they would refresh the screen after each character....

They KNOW what a mutex or semaphore or monitor is, but when asked how to apply it in that situation they have no clue.


28 posted on 06/12/2013 12:19:03 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Mr. K

The place I was at before this gig was full of them. Their code was was so complex and convoluted for what it did. They had layers upon layers of classes that had one line of code or method in them. We’d hit a problem and they would immediate want to create yet another class that would basically check a value and set a flag. They said it was better to have lots of small single purpose classes over having a couple of static utility classes to handle stuff like that since that “was the agile way, you know one class one purpose”. I would just smile. The freakin’ stack trail was sometimes over 30 layers.

Another stupid thing they would be checking Windows credentials in almost every single layer in the business logic. I was like so you think the login is going to change from process to process in the same session? And they wondered why their code was so slow sometimes. But like you said they could recite syntax and spew textbook definitions of terms.


29 posted on 06/12/2013 12:32:39 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Hawk1976

The only way to build up your salary is to job hop. Don’t let anyone tell you it is not a good thing. It’s the only thing. I remember I started a job B and got 15% increase over job A. I got another offer, job C, from another company with 10% more. So in one month I increased my salary 35%.


30 posted on 06/12/2013 12:38:20 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: William Tell 2

They might be if they could find one.


31 posted on 06/12/2013 4:42:30 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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