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NSA Surveillance, If Ungentlemanly, Is Not Illegal
Townhall.com ^ | June 13, 2013 | Michael Barone

Posted on 06/13/2013 3:04:35 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/13/2013 3:04:35 AM PDT by Kaslin
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ETFOOM? Isn’t this whole thing about the fact that spy agencies are specifically prohibited from domestic spying, from spying on their own citizens?


2 posted on 06/13/2013 3:08:02 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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Not you too, Barone...

Perhaps not illegal, but certainly unconstitutional. Gentility is irrelevant when my rights are under attack.


3 posted on 06/13/2013 3:11:30 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Kaslin
With increased computer use, technology is seen as empowering individuals rather than Big Brother.

Only amongst low-information citizens.

4 posted on 06/13/2013 3:12:20 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Kevmo

Actually, its only about the Fourth Amendment. But that’s plenty enough.


5 posted on 06/13/2013 3:13:24 AM PDT by abb
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To: Kaslin

Know these little Eichmann’s by their words! Barone is an embarrassment to all thinking Americans.


6 posted on 06/13/2013 3:15:13 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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ETFOOM? Isn’t this whole thing about the fact that spy agencies are specifically prohibited from domestic spying, from spying on their own citizens?

Yup, I thought this was just as "screwy" as when Zippy said he was sending the FBI over to investigate Benghazi.

7 posted on 06/13/2013 3:17:52 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: iopscusa

Barone appears to be a plagiarizer too. He begins his article talking about a British government official refusing to read other peoples’ mail. He basically stole that account with its corresponding analysis from a book that talked about the history of the M16, British secret intelligence agency. Did Barone cite this book in the article?


8 posted on 06/13/2013 3:20:18 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Fresh Wind

of course


9 posted on 06/13/2013 3:24:43 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: oblomov

Excellent point


10 posted on 06/13/2013 3:25:25 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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"Predictive modeling of meta-data."
We thought about it for a long time,
and when we had thought about it long enough,
we declared war on the Union.

11 posted on 06/13/2013 3:28:21 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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Michael Barone may be correct as to the legality of this government data collection effort. But like Obama-care and the current immigration bill, the Patriot Act was a rush-job that was crammed thru Congress and has never received any real Constitutional challenges. So he & the Congressional leadership shouldn’t act all shocked when the public reacts negatively to the ham-handed way the Feds apply these powers.

I could easily see this scandal destroying what is left of the Republican Party. In the long run that might not be a bad thing. They don’t stand for much of anything at this point anyway.

The Dems may elect another president in a walk, but they may face a new political opposition party that could rapidly some of their safer voting blocs who are also concerned about Privacy. A political realignment is overdue in this country.


12 posted on 06/13/2013 3:28:32 AM PDT by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania)
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Mosques are excluded:

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/061213-659753-all-intrusive-obama-terror-dragnet-excludes-mosques.htm


13 posted on 06/13/2013 3:28:57 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: TexGrill
What do you mean Michael Barone is a plagiarizer? Did you miss the That's what Secretary of State Henry Stimson said to explain why he shut down the government's cryptanalysis operations in 1929. part
14 posted on 06/13/2013 3:29:45 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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The core issue is that congress and several presidents have made egregious activity legal. Sure, it’s all legal, that’s the issue.


15 posted on 06/13/2013 3:40:46 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: oblomov
Perhaps not illegal, but certainly unconstitutional. Gentility is irrelevant when my rights are under attack.

????

If something is unconstitutional, it is by definition illegal, since the Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

16 posted on 06/13/2013 3:41:25 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: TexGrill

Stimson, who is quoted with citation in this article, worked for the US government.


17 posted on 06/13/2013 3:44:17 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: TexGrill

You’re stretching the definition of plagiarism to a meaningless point.


18 posted on 06/13/2013 3:49:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin
enabled the United States and Britain to decrypt secret Japanese and German messages. ...undoubtedly saved the lives of tens of thousands of Allied service members.

The war going on now is domestic between the city consumers and the city-adverse producers. The wiretapping of citizen vs. citizen is intended to give the city dwellers the upper hand. And they need it because the producers can cut them off at any time. Wars are usually won by one side out-producing the other, and this war will be no contest.

If terrorists nuke NYC, LA, and Chicago, a strong argument could be made the USA would bounce back stronger than ever. Why are we destroying America in their name?

19 posted on 06/13/2013 3:49:37 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

thanks Kaslin.

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IBD
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20 posted on 06/13/2013 3:50:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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