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It's Painful... Rubio Says We Must Legalize Illegals So They Can Pay for Border Security
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 6-14-2013 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/14/2013 12:55:13 PM PDT by servo1969

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RUSH: Folks, I can't tell you, I don't even want to have to say this.  This is painful.  Did you hear what Senator Rubio said?  We need to bring the illegals here so that they will pay for the border security that we need.  I know.  I can't tell you, this is painful for me.

I'm paraphrasing because I don't have the exact quote, but the immigrants that we legalize, we have to have 'em because they are going to pay for border security, to pay for the fence.  I guess what is meant by that is that we need the new taxpayers.  Now immigrants are more fertile. They create more businesses than native born Americans over the last 20 years. They love their families. We don't.  He didn't say that, but why point out that they love their families?  They're more intact families, younger population.  I'm trying not to be reactionary.  That's why I'm not saying anything.

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RUSH: The Rubio quote:  "We need to register them as soon as possible, not just to keep the problem from getting worse, but we’re going to require them to pay a fine, and that’s the money that we are going to use to pay for the border security.  If we don’t get that fine money from the people that have violated our immigration laws, then the American taxpayer is going to have to pay for border security."

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RUSH: I'll tell you why it pains me, why it is really, really painful, this stuff.  Because I really like Senator Rubio.  I remember Senator Rubio campaigning against Crist.  I know who Rubio is.  I wish he would get out of this whole immigration fight and not tarnish himself because there is a lot of potential in Marco Rubio.  This immigration thing is gonna taint him.  I just hope it doesn't.
JOHNNY DONOVAN:  And now, from sunny south Florida, it's Open Line Friday!

RUSH:  Look what happens when you get in bed with these people on the left.  I don't want to call it moving over to the dark side, but look what happens when you cross the line and go over there. 

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RUSH:  Immigration story here from Reuters, folks.  It has an interesting development in the House that really is news.  First off, the headline:  "Senate Rejects Republican Effort to Gut Immigration Bill -- A landmark immigration bill survived a major challenge in the Senate on Thursday when its bipartisan 'Gang of Eight' sponsors beat back an amendment that would have delayed a pathway to citizenship for 11 million illegal residents."

This was the Grassley amendment that was beaten back.  The Grassley amendment would have prohibited a first step toward granting of legal status until the Department of Homeland Security has maintained effective control of the US-Mexico border for a period of six months.  That was the amendment, which is what we had all been assured had to happen or there wouldn't be any Republican support for the Gang of Eight bill.  Then that changed, that we have to do the legalization first and then do the border, for two reasons.  We have to do the legalization to get 'em out of the shadows.  We have to do the legalization to find out who they are.  And then we have to levy fines so that the fine money we collect will pay for the border security. 

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But this story also has a development in the House that could be big news and disturbing news.  The House immigration legislation includes, quote, from the story, "provisions giving state and local police departments powers to apprehend undocumented people."  Now, remember what Michele Bachmann said.  Michele Bachmann said that the House bill is gonna look really good.  It's gonna look like it is really, really good. It's gonna get a lot, lotta support, and it's gonna pass the House, but the stuff in it that everybody likes is gonna be taken out in conference.  That's the conspiratorial theory that has evolved about what's gonna happen in the House. 

The immigration legislation in the House, again, includes provisions that give state and local police the power to apprehend undocumented people.  Now, the Democrats in the House are calling that a step backward that would lead to racial profiling.  John Conyers, the senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, said, "It's alarming that this bill would turn millions of undocumented immigrants into criminals overnight. It's not only terrible politics but its inhumane policy."

So what we know, which we already did, but what we've had confirmed, therefore, Democrats do not want to ever detain illegal aliens, even after this latest round of amnesty.  Now, that ought to open people's eyes.  That ought to tell everybody everything they need to know about this whole idea of immigration reform.  It really is just a plan to open the borders.  The House bill grants amnesty. Well, no. The House bill moves it forward, but the House bill has a provision that local cops and state cops can apprehend undocumented people.  And the Democrats say no.  Now, it's still going to be illegal to cross the border after amnesty, folks.  This is the key. 

Even if the Senate bill were to pass and be signed by Obama, crossing the border illegally is still going to be illegal.  Amnesty will not mean that anybody in the world is also free to come.  Amnesty will, theoretically, only apply to the 11 million or whatever number are here.  But anybody after amnesty signed into law who crosses the border illegally is still an illegal immigrant.  And the House bill would therefore permit local and state authorities to apprehend those people.  Democrats say, nope, no way, Jose, we're not agreeing to that.  Meaning, as far as the Democrats are concerned, at no time is anybody to be treated as an illegal, which should tell everybody what the Democrats' real objective here is.  And amnesty is just one step of the objective. 

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The objective is a constant, never-ending, inflow of low-skilled, uneducated people that will make up a permanent Democrat Party underclass.  That's when the Democrats shine. That's when the Democrats think they are at their best, when they're speaking up for the downtrodden.  When the Democrats are speaking up for the little guy, when the Democrats are speaking up for the poor, when the Democrats are speaking up for the hungry and the thirsty, when the Democrats are defending and speaking up for the people who have not won life's lottery, that's when they think they are their best. That's when they know they get their votes. That's when they know that they win the battle of who happens to have the most compassion, Democrats or Republicans. 

The Democrats need poor people.  The Democrats need a never ending inflow of poor people.  And they need those people to stay poor as long as they can.  They need poor people depending on Democrats.  They need poor people in the welfare state rolls.  They need poor people looking at government as Santa Claus.  And just because we grant amnesty does not mean, as far as they're concerned, that that shuts off immigration.  No.  We're just gonna deal with these 11 million and we're gonna start all over again.  We're gonna have millions more in another 20 years, have to do it all over again.  That's what their agenda is and this pretty much shines the light on that. 

Democrats need poor people so badly they have to import them.  The Democrats must keep people in the dark about the source of prosperity.  The Democrats must make sure that people do not learn where real prosperity comes from.  As far as the Democrats are concerned, you need a never-ending flow of poor people who think that government is the source of prosperity, that government is the source of life.  And as people in America grow and perhaps, maybe in time, fall out of that arrangement, the Democrats need replacements.  The Democrats need poor people so badly, they have to import them. 

The Democrat mission is not to raise people up out of poverty.  The Democrat mission is to make sure there is a constant number, growing number of poor people.  That's when the Democrats shine, folks, is when they're defending them, when they're speaking up for them, when they're making the case for the poor.  That allows them to blame Republicans for practically everything, accuse Republicans of being heartless and cold and cruel and extreme and all the rest.  You need victims.  Victims of the Republicans, victims of conservatism, ergo you need a never-ending inflow of poor people.  And, as an added bonus, the less educated they are, the better. 

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To: Theoria

I see Rubio as the point man for Jeb. Jeb wants to run in 2016. Rubio has plenty of time to wait in line, Jeb does not.


41 posted on 06/14/2013 1:35:41 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: servo1969

42 posted on 06/14/2013 1:35:50 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Secret Agent Man
How anyone can believe him, is crazy. You have to ignore the fact they are idiotic and just simply rather want to believe him due to irrational emotions.

That's something that had been said in the last primary and very few listened.

43 posted on 06/14/2013 1:37:16 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: alloysteel
Brevity is your friend.
44 posted on 06/14/2013 1:38:25 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: presently no screen name

Yes, and if you look at my comments my feelings were along these lines too.


45 posted on 06/14/2013 1:38:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: servo1969
We have to stop this monstrous Amnesty bill. They get us to focus on Rubio, Snowden etc when we should be focused on calling Congress to stop the immigration bill, calling congress to prosecute Obama and the IRS for rigging the election(Obama ordering the IRS to rig the election.

We need to first figure out what to do.

Where is anyone even saying what is going on , much less what to do?

Plus the only time we have to think about Rubio is when he tries to run in 2016. Of course THEN we should not support this moron. but what Republican has a chance in 2016 with the IRS shutting down opposition to the democrats and all the things the democrat party controls:

The enemy of the American people is the democrat party. The democrat party controls

1. the news media
2. hollwywood
3. the presidency
4. The senate
5. the gov bureaucracies
5. the unions
7. the universities
8. the schools
9. soros , Lewis,zuckerberg, msny other billionaires are democrats.
10. Obama the main tyrant is a democrat
11. silicon valley, Google etc. are democrats
12. Pelosi, REid, fienstein, Shumer, Durbin , Lois lerner r democrats
13 . the rest of the media
14. IRS , EPA, DHS, HHS, TSA, FBI, etc.
15. liberals control the supreme Court( they approved Obamacare)
15 . Democrats control all the political money .Soros, tides foundation,gov grants, move on.org,

Democrat party controls all this and more but the media and many others say that everything is the Republicans fault even though r’s have only a few votes majority in the House and that's it

Democrats want to makes slaves of all Americans, turn us into cattle with less rights than a cow or farm chicken for them to manipulate.

46 posted on 06/14/2013 1:39:06 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: servo1969

Legalize illegals? I think that is what we use to call an irreversible process in physics. OK, maybe just a garden variety oxymoron.


47 posted on 06/14/2013 1:43:45 PM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: servo1969
why doesn't Rubio just do a Pelosi and say we have to pass this bill so we can then change it to really give the dems what they want which is full blown amnesty for every illegal with all the welfare perks
48 posted on 06/14/2013 1:46:27 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Secret Agent Man

What is Levin’s problem? I don’t listen to him much because of the time he comes on, but I think he’s really smart. Ugh


49 posted on 06/14/2013 1:46:31 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: servo1969
"We need to register them as soon as possible, not just to keep the problem from getting worse, but we’re going to require them to pay a fine, and that’s the money that we are going to use to pay for the border security. If we don’t get that fine money from the people that have violated our immigration laws, then the American taxpayer is going to have to pay for border security."

The amnestied illegal aliens would pay no fine, they don't have enough dinero. They would get money from us taxpayers, right from the get go.

To the many fine folks who think that Mister Rubio would make a good presidential candidate, look closely at this.

Mister Rubio has no clue on (a) how to sum up a problem, (b) how to arrive at a workable solution, (c) how to negotiate from a position of strength, (d) how to withstand (gasp) criticism from the media and (e) having, maintaining, and standing on core principles.

Mister Rubio must be primaried-out in 2016.

50 posted on 06/14/2013 1:49:42 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: uncommonsense
This immigration thing is gonna taint him. I just hope it doesn't."

This SHOULD taint him. It speaks to his honesty and good judgement, and voters need to remember this for a long time. Rubio is not President material, and I hope he is not re-elected to the Senate. Being made a fool of by Chuck Schumer and John McCain is something that should taint you for a long time. I don't understand why Rush would not want this to taint him. Sad, but it is good we know this about Rubio, and we should remember it for a long time. I also think it is good for other Tea Party candidates to see that doing what Rubio, Flake, and Toomey have done is a career ending move for them. Instead I think they count on voters having short memories.

51 posted on 06/14/2013 1:51:01 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: servo1969

Marco Rubio: Biggest. Trojan. Horse. Dem. EVER.


52 posted on 06/14/2013 1:51:34 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: Finatic
Can you point me to any post here on FR from someone who knew that Rubio was a fraud as he was running for Senate?
53 posted on 06/14/2013 1:53:27 PM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Finatic

I really hope that soon, Rush and Mark Levin tell Rubio to take a hike and that he will no longer receive their support. This immigration bill is too serious for Rush and Levin to give Rubio any further support for his political career. Rubio should lose his Senate seat for the way he has conducted himself during this entire ordeal.

Rush and Mark Levin let Rubio go on their shows back in January to kick off the entire amnesty process. They both gave Marco the benefit of the doubt. Levin bought in to the “defacto amnesty” argument. Rubio has misrepresented his conditions for the bill and I think he lied to Rush and to Levin, and they should withdraw all future support of him.


54 posted on 06/14/2013 1:54:37 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Hugh Hewitt has been ridiculously weak on this issue, like he is most issues. Hugh posted on his webpage how the Cornyn Ammendment was so important to the process and securing the border. Hugh completely leaves out the Grassley ammendment that the Gang of 8 voted against. Hugh is convinced that a bill has to be produced which can pass the House, otherwise he thinks the GOP will lose the House in 2014. Hugh always buys into the “gotta do anything to win the next election” obsession, and as a result the GOP passes bad bills and keeps losing elections.


55 posted on 06/14/2013 1:58:29 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: Reddon

Rush should say: “Marco Rubio, I hope he fails”.


56 posted on 06/14/2013 2:01:58 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: vietvet67

Wish that sign was up every mile in the country. There’s unemployed liberals around too.


57 posted on 06/14/2013 2:02:10 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: vietvet67
Finally an ad that says the truth:

http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/blogs-photo/rendered/2013/05/Rubio-Obama-Amnesty-BB-OcalaFL_8col.jpg

58 posted on 06/14/2013 2:09:35 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: vietvet67
Finally an ad that says the truth:


59 posted on 06/14/2013 2:10:09 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: servo1969

Kind of like let’s give the fox a room in the hen house so he can help build a stronger, more secure one.


60 posted on 06/14/2013 2:13:35 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (I love my country; I don't like its government)
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