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CIA preparing to deliver rebels arms through Turkey and Jordan (Is this Hugh and Syria?)
Washington Post ^ | 6-15-2013 | Greg Miller and Joby Warrick

Posted on 06/15/2013 2:31:15 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

The CIA is preparing to deliver arms to rebel groups in Syria through clandestine bases in Turkey and Jordan that were expanded over the past year in an effort to establish reliable supply routes into the country for nonlethal material, U.S. officials said.

The bases are expected to begin conveying limited shipments of weapons and ammunition within weeks

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Is this Hugh and Syria?

According to news reports, Obama wants to provide plenty of money, arms and political protection to a terrorist group. But enough about the IRS.

The White House on Thursday announced that it now thinks it's a good idea to start shipping arms to 'Syrian rebels', known up until this week as "al-Qaeda", because a "red line" had been crossed. The "red line" being defined as 'another week of scandals dominating the news.'

Obama is spying on all Americans to 'combat terrorists'. Meanwhile, in Syria he wants to arm and train terrorists for combat.

To combat powerful chemical weapons, Obama will ship small arms and ammo only to "vetted" Syrian rebel groups, since the U.S. did such a solid job vetting Tamerlan Tsarnaev. And there's only a teensy chance this weaponry might fall into the wrong hands -- as we learned in Fast and Furious.

The public justification being used for cranking up another war is that there are thoughtful slogans out there on the airwaves like, "93,000 have been killed!!!!!! We have to do something!!!!"

World renown military authority , Gen. William Kristol of the Weekly Standard has also called on the U.S. to jump into this chemical war. Kristol pushed hard for the Iraq war, so what could possibly go wrong?

Out of the alleged 93,000 killed in Syria, 153 were killed by chemical weapons. From this, the White House concludes that (a) the chemical weapons thus far used have been deadlier than the wussy conventional weapons that snuffed out 92,847, (b) Assad killed all 93,000 people and (c) Assad is almost as dangerous as Ted Cruz.

To follow the White House's impeccable moral argument further, no "red line" was breached in killing 92,847 people -- it's the 153 fatalities that justifies getting in the middle of another bloody civil war in the Middle East. The 153 are clearly deader than the 92,847.

Chemical weapons are alleged to have been used as early as August, 2012, or what Jay Carney would consider "a long time ago."

For months, the Obama administration had been debating whether there's "evidence" that chemical weapons were being used by the Syrian government. The White House now considers the "evidence" conclusive, now that the broadcast networks are covering something called the 'NSA scandal.'

Supplying weapons to the "rebels" in Libya gave us Benghazi, where former members of the "rebel movement" in Libya showed their boundless gratitude to America by slaughtering four Americans. In response to this act of kindness, Obama apologized to Muslims for attacking us. His most decisive actions thus far include arresting an obscure film maker and hacking into Sharyl Attkisson's computer.

In Egypt, dumping long-time U.S. ally Hosni Mubarak, on the basis that he was a long-time U.S. ally, while backing the "secular" Muslim Brotherhood produced another Sharia-law-loving Islamic basket case. As a bonus, with Mubarak gone, Christian groups have been the target of Egypt's tolerant new rulers. (Maybe they're a branch of the IRS.)

Looking at what happened in Libya, and looking at what happened in Libya's Benghazi, and looking at what happened in Egypt, Obama concludes we need more such amazing examples of his nifty 'doctrine' of leading from his behind. A brand new NBC/WSJ poll shows 15% of Americans want the U.S. to intervene in Syria. Encouraged by this broad support, Obama lapses again into that leading from his behind default position. If there's anything discernibly 'doctrinal' about Obama's whole foreign policy approach, it essentially amounts to taking all the lessons learned in the Bush years and methodically unlearning them. Any lesson to be gleaned from the BushCo Jesusland 'warmonger' and his Darth Cheney sidekick, unglean it. Bush's Afghanistan light footprint? Ramp up troop levels and double down on failed nation-building. Iraq? After all the blood and treasure expended, snatch ol' defeat from the jaws of victory on the home stretch, including getting the unceremonious boot out the door. Another lesson's don't fight proxy wars. Syria is the mother of all of 'em -- Iran vs. U.S., U.S. vs. Russia, then spice up the quagmire with Arab Sunnis Alawite Shias, Hezbollah, Salafists, Wahhabis, Druze, Kurds, Turks, Christians and so on. And the vital national interest in Syria is? I'd love to hear the answer to that one.

Anyway, that's...
My Two Cents...
"JohnHuang2"



TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; israel; jordan; lebanon; randsconcerntrolls; russia; syria; turkey; waronterror

1 posted on 06/15/2013 2:31:15 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Forgiven_Sinner; xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ...

Saturday morning ping! Have a great Happy Father’s Day weekend, y’all!


2 posted on 06/15/2013 2:33:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

Well said.


3 posted on 06/15/2013 2:46:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: JohnHuang2

That’s just about what I was thinking after the nightly news - only I could never have said it the way you do. Brilliant.


4 posted on 06/15/2013 2:57:36 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: JohnHuang2

This is not going to end well. Those weapons will be used on Israelis, Christians and our Embassy personnel.

If only the pea-brained American sheeptards could ever awaken from their coma....


5 posted on 06/15/2013 3:02:21 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Charles Krauthammer(sp) said it best. Zero came upon a wreck and asked what happened? He doesn’t have a C-L-U-E. . .


6 posted on 06/15/2013 3:03:12 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I sure hope ZERO doesn't get thrown in jail. OK I am lying. I hope The MOO goes too. . . . . . .)
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To: JohnHuang2
this brings us into direct confrontation with Russia ands its surrogate, Iran

sends US arms to a massive terrorist network dominated by al Qaeda or similar ideological islamists, who consider destroying the West priority #2 after they murder or subjugate enough muslims to set up their glorious caliphate and destroy Israel

exposes Turkey and Jordan to increasing destabilization

and all managed by John "Kerry of Arabia" and the idiots at State Department who think muslims who tweet must be democratic revolutionaries

oh and bypasses Congress again in getting advise and consent for inserting American men and American interests into another war designed by obama cronies at CIA

but hey, what could possibly go wrong

7 posted on 06/15/2013 3:12:17 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: JohnHuang2

Chris Stevens’ mission continues!


8 posted on 06/15/2013 3:17:34 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: JohnHuang2

Wasn’t THIS what our dead AMb. Stevens was doing in Benghazi??


9 posted on 06/15/2013 3:18:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Bushbacker1

I posted mine before I saw yours....I SWEAR!


10 posted on 06/15/2013 3:19:01 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: JohnHuang2











11 posted on 06/15/2013 3:20:47 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: JohnHuang2

The great advantage we have is that moslems spent the past 1,400 years totally botching everything they try.

This endeavor shall be no exception.


12 posted on 06/15/2013 3:21:51 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Syria is Russia’s client state. Russia will kick the CIA from here to Benghazi you can count on the full military might of
Putin to be deployed in Defence of Assad.

This will not end well. The CIA operatives and their al Queda mercenaries will be swiftly exterminated.


13 posted on 06/15/2013 3:29:08 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Bushbacker1

And whose idea was it to send Chris Stevens? Could it have been HILLARY? This action is just to provide retroactive cover for her should she ever be made to testify under oath about the murder of four Americans in Benghazi.


14 posted on 06/15/2013 3:31:35 AM PDT by greenhornet68
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To: DeaconRed

Charles Krauthammer(sp) said it best. Zero came upon a wreck and asked what happened? He doesn’t have a C-L-U-E. . .
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IMO it should read Obama CAUSED the wreck.
Stands there and denies it.
Then tries to further injure the people in the car.

Obama wants Al Qaeda to win.
Obama is directly involved in the coming murders of Christians in Syria.


15 posted on 06/15/2013 3:41:01 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: JohnHuang2

Shouldn’t the headline be, “CIA admits they have been smuggling arms...”?


16 posted on 06/15/2013 4:16:20 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: DeaconRed

Did the Current Occupant of the White Hut even ASK what was happening in Syria? Iran and Saudi Arabia are engaged in a war, using somebody else’s real estate. Various different elements within the Islamic world have chosen sides, and this is a fight between a scorpion and a cobra. There may be even more sides involved than we now suspect or recognize, as both Russia and Turkey seem to have a stake in the outcome, and Israel is the badger crouched in its hole while the wolverine and grizzly bear are getting territorial.

Now people may not know this about a wolverine, but when it has something it wants to keep, they have been known to make a grizzly back up. A wolverine is all ferocity, something the grizzly is not prepared to engage directly, as the wolverine will wade in, even with blows and bites rained upon its back, and proceed to disembowel the grizzly.

Maybe the grizzly will incapacitate the wolverine sufficiently so it is unable or unready to engage another right away, but the grizzly stands to be mortally wounded as a result. Then we have two dying creatures, neither of which will quit the fight until the last breath.

Our best hope at this juncture is to keep the grizzly and wolverine circling each other, maybe for years, while the badger continues to watch warily. As long as they are fighting each other, the badger is relatively safe.

Unsure whether adrenaline and/or testosterone are in our best interests at the moment.


17 posted on 06/15/2013 4:17:50 AM PDT by alloysteel (When did the government suddenly become our psycho ex-girlfriend? - Jay Leno)
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To: JohnHuang2

I can assure you, that Putin has decided to defend Assad at all costs. He will put Russian troops there if need be.

Asshat Obama on the other hand...is trying to get back into the game when he’s 40 pts down. All Putin has to do, is show a little might, and Obama will stand down. The first time in the history of our country that an American president will stand down to another country.

But it will happen. Esp when he teligraphs that we’re going to arm these teenager beheading thugs.

If I were Putin, I would target these arm shipments and blast the hell out of them... then one by one dismantle the rebels esp now that Assad has control.

If we were to get into this chess game....we should have done it some time ago... and apparently we were, as the rebels were about to win...

The worst is yet to come folks. Obama is not a fighter... hes a sneak. Drones, surveilance, take down your own people etc. the kind of leader you’d expect from a Stalin or even a Putin. He’s a two bit operator...

Mark my words. Putin will slap him down...and Obama will then have to decide to stand up to the guy or back down. He of course he will back down to the delight of PUtin.

It will then take another leader with backbone, and of course our soldiers to put is back as the world foremost power again. If not, then get ready for the Fall of the Roman Empire part two.


18 posted on 06/15/2013 4:18:34 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: JohnHuang2

Wait!, do Tammy Fae Boehner and the rest of Congress not have decisions to make???


19 posted on 06/15/2013 4:29:17 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: nikos1121

Another 3 to 4 weeks would be the perfect time for Sheriff Joe to demonstrate 0bama is not a Citizen of the USA, but actually a Citizen of a Country fighting in Syria.


20 posted on 06/15/2013 4:35:16 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: JohnHuang2

Building bases over the past year, eh, coupled with what was going on in Benghazi? Kinda makes the “chemical attack” excuse extremely thin since they’ve been planning this since spring 2012.


21 posted on 06/15/2013 4:38:01 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: JohnHuang2

Big deal. The CIA is often on the wrong side. Does this mean we can start arresting government officials for giving aid to terrorist organizations?


22 posted on 06/15/2013 4:46:27 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: FlyingEagle

This will not end well. The CIA operatives and their al Queda mercenaries will be swiftly exterminated.

Sounds like a good ending to me.


23 posted on 06/15/2013 4:47:24 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Now it’s official: the CIA is reopening its gunrunning operation that was shutdown temporarily by the raid at Benghazi on 9/11/2012. Attrition on the AQ fighters against Assad is going badly for Dear Leader, so he had to manufacture an excuse to rearm them. This is just Obama smoke and mirrors to cover his aggression in Syria to please his Saudi masters and advance the Islamic caliphate.


24 posted on 06/15/2013 4:48:50 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: ScottinVA

“Those weapons will be used on Israelis, Christians and our Embassy personnel.”

... and our own troops, eventually.

F you President Obama for arming our enemies.


25 posted on 06/15/2013 4:48:58 AM PDT by moovova
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To: JohnHuang2
Looking at what happened in Libya, and looking at what happened in Libya's Benghazi, and looking at what happened in Egypt, and looking at what happened in Iraq, and looking at what happened in Afghanistan, and looking at what happened in Vietnam, Obama concludes we need more such amazing examples of his nifty 'doctrine' of leading from his behind. Better.
26 posted on 06/15/2013 4:49:01 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: FlyingEagle

Yep. Keep our aircraft, missiles, and troops outa there.


27 posted on 06/15/2013 4:50:40 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: JohnHuang2

Helping ANY bearded savage is stupid. Especially when they hate us.

The commander in chief is helping those who hate us.


28 posted on 06/15/2013 5:03:51 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: FlyingEagle

This turn into a full blown ME war the.WWIII. You are correct. Syria is Russia’s last base in the ME and will defend it w their own troops.


29 posted on 06/15/2013 5:40:40 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Steven Tyler

I just read, where Obama is now saying he’s NOT sending the rebels arms.

I am willin to bet the bank that Putin sent him a message, a clear message, that if he sends anything more than a coupld rifles, he will flatten them...

Obama, playing the lead from behind BS, could sit back and deny he was doing anything in Syria, now with Benghazi the world knows what was going on. WE were arming them thru Libya thru Turkey.

But now, since Assad crossed the red line... Obama is going to openly send arms...

Now is PUtin going to back down? Hell know. He’s saying there were no chemical weapons used....and if US sends arms he will double down and defend Assad.

You see it’s no longer about Syria, it’s now about Putin and Obama. PUtin is probably relishing it. No wonder the testosterone is flowing in his veins. He sees a milk toast in the WH, and he’s about to have fun with the guy.

In three to four weeks.. PUtin could be the most powerful man on earth....

What’s that? You disagree? Obama will overnight turn into George Patton, or Grant or Stonewall Jackson, or Andrew Jackson or Ronald Reagan.

FAt chance. This guy has backed himself into a corner. Hillary is out of the picture and laying low, sending out scandal after scandal to avoid anymore hearing on Benghazi....

3 to 4 weeks... you are probably right. All hell will break out...


30 posted on 06/15/2013 5:48:39 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: DownInFlames

Everyone knows where this is going.

Remember when Obama said after the reelection he will have more flexibility? Don think for a minute the Russians are not leveraging the Syrians in exchange for Obama pulling out missiles.

Missiles go, Russia finall can move o his neighbors since American credibility is dead there, Syria loses, Al Queada takes over Syria and now America has leverage over the Israelis.

Meanwhile America is no safer and Israeli will face another war.

Beautiful.


31 posted on 06/15/2013 5:51:44 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: JohnHuang2
The only vital interest we have in Syria is for the lesser of the two evils contending there to end up (back) in control but severely weakened.

One possible justification for providing arms to the "rebels" would be to perpetuate the conflict so that the attrition is extended as long as possible, eating up men and resources from Hizbullah and the Iranian allies as much as if not more than from the Assad run military. The problem is that would be a delicate game to play with possible consequences including a face off between Russia and Turkey (i.e. NATO), a desperate Assad shaking up the board by striking out at Israel with unconventional weapons, or a Sunni victory and the emplacement of a far more maniacal and dangerous opponent on Israel's northern frontier.

I would be surprised if the Jordanians, at least and in spite of their natural inclination to support the Sunni side in this Islamic civil war, would not see a victory by the Muslim Brotherhood (Al Qaeda by any other name) as more problematic to have on their border than a weakened Assad. If that's the case, what kind of environment will our Marines find themselves in six months from now on the Jordanian side of the border? Unwelcome and with enemies on all sides?

This is the sort of three dimensional Middle East chess match we Americans are historically pretty bad at and it sounds to me like Obama (and others like McCain) is pushing us into a gun powder shed using a lit match to find our way.

32 posted on 06/15/2013 5:54:02 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: JohnHuang2
Scathing essay. All of it true. Methinks you should send this to the White House...oh, never mind, they are probably reading it right now.

5.56mm

33 posted on 06/15/2013 6:38:04 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: DeaconRed
Charles Krauthammer(sp) said it best. Zero came upon a wreck and asked what happened? He doesn’t have a C-L-U-E. . .


Hussein knows exactly what is happening. He is arming rebels who will in turn use them on Christian an Jews in the area. And then he'll declare the rebels as refugees and bring them over here to attack us too
34 posted on 06/15/2013 7:01:54 AM PDT by Old Yeller (You can't spell Stanley Ann without S-A-T-A-N)
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To: Steven Tyler
Wait!, do Tammy Fae Boehner and the rest of Congress not have decisions to make???

They've been rendered impotent by Blackmail Barry.
35 posted on 06/15/2013 7:06:05 AM PDT by Old Yeller (You can't spell Stanley Ann without S-A-T-A-N)
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To: DownInFlames
This turn into a full blown ME war the.WWIII. You are correct. Syria is Russia’s last base in the ME and will defend it w their own troops.

I'm starting to visualize Damascus as a heaping uninhabitable ruin and Gog Magog with Russia.
36 posted on 06/15/2013 7:10:24 AM PDT by Old Yeller (You can't spell Stanley Ann without S-A-T-A-N)
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To: JohnHuang2

Thank you so much for the excellent essay, dear JohnHuang2!


37 posted on 06/15/2013 8:29:31 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: JohnHuang2

Your 2 cents are under priced. Well said.


38 posted on 06/15/2013 9:03:03 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: JohnHuang2

[The CIA is preparing to deliver arms to rebel groups in Syria through clandestine bases in Turkey and Jordan...]

The ‘foggy bottom boys’ sure know how to keep a secret, next revelation will be the supply routes.


39 posted on 06/15/2013 9:08:03 AM PDT by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: JohnHuang2

McCain is dutifully calling for heavy weapons...instrumental to Obama’s coverup of past shipments of the same from Libya, which resulted in the Benghazi attack...”a long time ago” as Jay Carney would say.


40 posted on 06/15/2013 9:12:24 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: JohnHuang2

Did they have to buy them back from Mexico before they ship them?.


41 posted on 06/15/2013 10:04:56 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: JohnHuang2

Most of the time in foreign affairs what an administration (any administration) is faced with is bad actions and worse actions. IMO in Syria what we now have is a case of two equally bad solutions (get openly involved or don’t get openly involved) Both can lead to equally bad outcomes. Yet somehow in his infinite wisdom Obama has managed to come up with a 3rd even worse solution! The man is amazing! As was said back in the day...He could f**k up a wet dream.


42 posted on 06/15/2013 6:14:08 PM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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