Skip to comments.Palin: 'Special Interest' Amnesty Bill Rewards 'Rule Breakers'
Posted on 06/15/2013 1:58:51 PM PDT by Bratch
Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin said the Senate's "special interest" immigration bill rewards "rule breakers" and was not the way to rebuild a conservative majority in America of people who want to restore the country's founding principles.
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This time its about the extermination of conservative political power permanently. What comes after that is probably even less attractive.
They aren’t rulebreakers. Themz guidlines. Rules is for games.
Theyz Law Breakers and should have demonstrable sanctions that would act as a deterrent to others.
Problem is, there are no real penalties for crossing our border unlawfully, obtaining and using someone else’s I.D. and SS#’s, obtaining loans for cars and homes by fraud, getting credit cards and opening bank accounts under assumed identities that would land a real American in jail.
They broke the law.
Just give it a break! You are a broken record.
She JUST ADDRESSED the issue!
“You cannot be serious!”
h/t John McEnroe
You really need to stop posting this over and over.
We’ve read about your stance of Palin.
No one has said they would remove the illegals.
If they enforce the laws now, many of the illegals would have to leave. What a concept.
No she really didn’t. She made one quip about not supporting this bill, and didn’t explain why at all.
She wants to be considered to be presidential material, but she doesn’t take on this bill to inform Conservatives why it isn’t worthy of her support.
She doesn’t explain why her plans are better. You get not much of anything other than that she has now determined this bill which seems to be in line with her past policy statement, is different and not supportable.
Broken record. She still hasn’t said she doesn’t favor a pathway to citizenship, so I’m still going to object to that.
If she can remain a broken record, so can I.
Some people will trash Sarah no matter what she says..apparently a person is not allowed to change their mind on an issue, what they said in the past gets repeated over and over again. I doubt Sarah Palin gives a damn about what others say about her, she will never satisfy some people
Christie, why do you object to seeing Palin’s own comments in print?
I favor them going home. Her stated policy is for them to register and stay.
Yes, I agree, what a concept. I just wish Sarah agreed with us. So far she has avoided saying that.
If someone can find an interview where she advocates for that, and renounces her former stance, I’d be glad to stop quoting her.
What comes next looks like North Korea
Please link me to where she has stated she now doesn’t think they should be able to register and stay. Failing that link me to where she says she no longer favors a pathway to citizenship for illegals.
It should be easy to provide if she has changed her mind.
Is that too much to ask of any of you?
Please link me to where those comments have been proven not to be true. Thanks in advance.
North Korea couldn’t invade another country but internally they are very similar to the NAZI’s
I think her speech today enough would imply what her beliefs are..as of right now she is not running for anything..she doesn’t have to give a laundry list of her views on every single issue..but I would think what she said today would satisfy some people..she called illegals “Rule breakers” do you think she would call someone a rule breaker and still want them to get a free path to citizenship
When they get their bombs and missiles straightened out, they’ll be able to cause havok, just prior to being vaporized. Of course that’s if their mommy China doesn’t throw it’s weight around to prevent it.
I agree with Sarah Palin
The current Amnesty bill must be stopped.call congress.
30 million illegals get Amnesty to vote in 2014 election
those 30 million can bring in 50 million more of their relatives still in the 3rd world.
30 million more illegals will invade to do the under the table jobs
untold millions will cross into the USA to get in on the
if this bill passes the USA is done
these representatives in Congress are traitors against
What do we do sit here and complain on the Internet when we should be protesting in the streets, outside of Congress as they prepare to give Amnesty to these immigrant creeps.protests, marches, no we sit here while they take our country away.
At least we should be calling Congressmen non stop, emailing , twitter ,paper letters( an effective method) etc.
I am writing something up to give these congressmen a piece of my mind
He refuses to believe her later comments about her supporting the AZ law are more important, or her consistent comments that we should enforce the laws on the books.
He refuses to believe she does not support this bill, even though it's now evident she took a shot across the bow of those who DO support it.
It's very sad.
The only reason Germany had to invade other countries is because they kept running out of other people’s money so they needed more people to take it from.
damage estimated in the thousands of won
When Palin was running with McCain, she may have thought differently, in Alaska I doubt they have a huge problem with illegals coming from Mexico and swimming to Alaska..but she has traveled the country, gone to Arizona, seen how horrible it is here in California, maybe she saw a new perspective on things..once you actually see the border and see illegals crossing it every second of everyday you get a new perspective on the whole situation. Just because she had a different view a few years ago doesn’t mean she shares that same view now
Of course not. Both parties at the national level want total government. They have the IRS and NSA in place for turnkey totalitarianism. They want to add some more law breaking foreigners who will tolerate corruption and oppressive government.
LOL love that pic and yes its SO true!
Darn right, AND they are ignoring the Selective Service Law. That law specifies one of the penalties is, ‘MAY NOT receive citizenship’(in addition to: no FED BENEFITS, no FED JOBS, no STUDENT LOANS).
Get over yourself!!! You’re a broken record! The only thing Sarah was told that she could have a different policy issue on as part of the McCain ticket was drill baby drill. Everything else was the platform of the nominee and that’s what all VP candidates espouse - the nominees policies.
Please link me to one post I made that refutes the fact Palin came out against it?
Sarah Palin is against this Amnesty bill
I am against this Amnesty bill.
That’s all that matters. this monstrous bill has to be stopped.
2 choices , yes or no. I and Sarah say NO to this stupid Amnesty bill.
Okay fine. That may very well be true. Is it wrong for me to point out her last known oral interview in which she voices support for Pathway and Instant Legalization?
If we criticize Obama for something his did a couple of years back, do we say to ourselves that “oh, he’s probably changed his mind, so nevermind”, or do we consider his last word on the matter to still be his view?
Palin didn’t make any clarifying remarks today, related to her own stated policy. If she had, I’d agree with you.
If you know of a more recent interview, please link me to it. I’m will to read it, take a look and give her credit for it if she has changed.
That is funny!
that statement was never necessarily her policy. That was said in Oct 2008 when she was still running with McCain and obviously singing his tune. You can’t really read much into that.
I mean look at Paul Ryan. He supported Romney who was against a path and now we find out he’s literally Mr Amnesty, even marching with Luis Guitierrez in Chicago.
What she said as the VP nominee is really irrelevant.
Here’s a slightly more recent interview with O’Reilly on where she’s clearly stating her own views and it takes a much harder stance on the issue.
She never mentions the word citizenship, says that we have to learn from Reagan’s mistake in 86, is very tough on securing the boarder and deporting folks, and at most seems to call for some sort of guest worker program to be figured out to deal with those already here.
Aside from that 2010 interview she hasn’t said much, but based on today she did indicate which direction she’s leaning
It's the clear implication of every single post you've made to me in the past day. You've been quoting this old stuff at me (and others) for far longer than that, refusing to acknowledge she doesn't believe in amnesty or this bill, constantly trying to PROVE to us all she believes what you wanted to think she believes, that she's the same as McCain, yada yada yada.
How's that cognitive dissonance going for you? Your anger at being shown how wrong you were is very disturbing.
Worth a decent chuckle huh. LOL Thanks...
So anything Biden says, we can basically discount it, because he’s just the VP you know. Right?
Come on folks? Be honest with yourselves. If she has changed her policy, please link me to an interview where she explains her new views.
If she has changed her policy, I would like to know. Others reading this thread would like to as well I’m sure.
You said, “He refuses to believe she came out against this bill” or words close to this.
I responsed with, “Please link me to one post I made the refutes the fact Palin came out against it.”
All you had to do was post a link to an interview where she voices a change of policy. That’s not so hard is it?
Instead you post some diatribe about me refusing to admit, hating her, days and days and days of my posting what Palin said in an interview...
Come on LakeShark, you’ve changed, remember?
Follow-up should have been something like...
All you had to do was link me to a post I made denying Palin came out against this bill.
I didn't make one...
do you really think it’s feasible that all 12,000,000 will go home? Can you really envision any scenario under which that comes even close to happening? Please explain how you see them going home? How will it happen? How long will it take? There are 12M illegals here now. Under your plan, how will that # go down to say even 6M? Let alone say 0?
The last in-depth interview isn’t really as you make it out to be. It’s from 2010 with BOR and here’s the relevant part:
PALIN: You know, there has to be that expectation that they will work and that they will contribute. Bill, it makes me uncomfortable that we’re even going down that path so far
(She’s uncomfortable even talking about letting people stay, which BOR brought up, and kept interrupting her and forcing her to answer, badgering almost)
O’REILLY: You have to though.
PALIN: when — no, no.
O’REILLY: You have to go down the path because it’s going to come up.
PALIN: American citizens who are here lawfully, they need to be the ones with the first shot at getting these jobs. We cannot make it easy on those who have chosen to be illegally here to disobey our laws. No.
That first shot needs to be fleshed out more, but that’s not exactly a pro-amnesty stance)
O’REILLY: No, we can’t make it easy, but they’re here. And we can’t starve them to death. And if they can’t work, if they don’t have a green card to work, they’re going to be hosed. I mean, they got to pay rent, they got to buy groceries
O’REILLY: this, that and the other thing. So this is where it gets very complicated, governor. You know, it gets very, very complicated
O’REILLY: because you are rewarding bad behavior. You’re letting them stay in the United States. And they came in illegally.
PALIN: Then let’s keep it — then we won’t complicate it anymore. Let’s keep it simple. And let’s say no, if you are here illegally, and if you don’t follow the steps that at some point through immigration reform we’re going to be able to provide, and that is to somehow allow to you work. If you’re not going to do that, then you will be deported. You will be gone.
(So here she seems to indicate taht yes, some will be allowed to say. At some distant point, AFTER the border has been fully secured and some other things have happened. Much, much tougher than the instant legalization Rubio and the GOP is pushing. And after that, no citizenship. She never mentions it. She mentions some sort of work status for those who’ve followed all the steps. And honestly, I’d bet most won’t follow the steps. And those people will be “deported” in her words. Right there she’s talking about deporting millions of illegals.)
O’REILLY: OK, we’ve established that.
PALIN: But let’s look at case history.
O’REILLY: Yes, we’ve established that.
PALIN: Let’s look at what, you know, political hero Ronald Reagan tried to do with 3 million illegals all those years ago.
O’REILLY: He botched it though, governor. Reagan botched it.
O’REILLY: He botched it.
PALIN: That’s what I’m saying. So we learn from history. We won’t do what he did.
(Won’t repeat Reagan’s mistakes)
I’d like to hear more as well but she never supports a path to citizenship in this interview. She fully supports fully securing the border, completing all fencing, militarizing the border, etc... BEFORE any other steps are even considered. She does seem to support a 60 day period that illegals would have to register at some point for some kind of guest worker program(anyone who doesn’t register during that period will be deported). So yes, she does seem to support some # of folks being allowed to remain as workers, but again, only after US citizens have gotten first dibs. (i’d like to hear more about that, maybe she means no registration until say unemployment is back below 5%)
The bottom line seems to be that she calls for fully securing the border before anything else. Then at some point implementing some guest worker program to deal with those already here in some fashion. She never mentions citizenship and never says she supports it.
She’s also now said that she does not support the current bill.
I’d like to hear more, but that’s where we are.
LARS: The amnesty proposal that was defeated in Congress in your view, was that amnesty for illegals and would you back amnesty for a path to citizenship, as the current president calls it?
SARAH PALIN: No, Im not for amnesty. Lets ratchet this down quite simply to remember what were referring to. Illegal aliens are called illegal for a reason. We need to secure our borders and I am not for amnesty. And there are humane ways to deal with the 11-13 million illegal aliens who are in our country right now, but if theyre not going to follow the rules, they need to get out.
“Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin said the Senate's “special interest” immigration bill rewards “rule breakers” and was not the way to rebuild a conservative majority in America of people who want to restore the country's founding principles”
Run Sarah. Sarah Palin for President 2016
It actually starts with me entering in at #179. Here is your answer to my post and your continued assault of what YOU claim she believes, what you tried to prove in every succeeding post that she believes. Anyone can follow the entire thread and it is filled with your assurance that she supports McCain, this bill, and amnesty; it reeks from every post you make. Anyone can follow our conversation and see what you were saying: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3030890/posts?page=180#180
There’s nothing wrong with her objecting to this bill.
If she no longer supports Pathway and Instantaneous Legalization, I wish she would make a policy speech and let us know about it.
She hasn’t. It’s best to address it now in-between elections. I’m doing it.
If you are a member of a support group for her, please pass along the idea that she needs to correct some mus-perceptions out here.
Thanks in advance.