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Snowden: Classified US data shows Hong Kong hacking targets
South China Morning Post ^ | 06/16/2013 | Lana Lam

Posted on 06/16/2013 8:14:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Gay State Conservative
I'd be willing to listen to him *up until* the point you defect to China,NK,etc.

So... where would you go ?

41 posted on 06/16/2013 11:53:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Vendome; SeekAndFind
What did he reveal?

That there is no law protecting 'whistleblowers', and basically there is no longer any 'law' in the United States.

42 posted on 06/16/2013 11:58:09 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2; Gay State Conservative
Why would he leave? He's HAPPY, oh so happy, oh so happy, and witty, and Gay (State Conservative) here!
43 posted on 06/16/2013 11:58:27 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: SeekAndFind; Bobalu
but who would want to live there?

It's not a case of 'want', it's a case of 'need'.

I wouldn't want to live in a storm cellar, but when a tornado comes by, you need to go there.

44 posted on 06/16/2013 12:00:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Would someone round up this guy already?

They don't want to round him up.

There are two scenarios.

If he's telling the truth, they want him dead.

If he's just a decoy to distract the public, after he's served his usefullness, they will kill him.

45 posted on 06/16/2013 12:04:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2
So... where would you go ?

If this guy was motivated by a desire to inform the American people about government abuses...as was,IIRC,his initial claim...he'd have to know that there could be consequences.As I said earlier what I initially read about him suggested that he might an OK guy.Either incredibly foolish (and naive) or incredibly brave.But,as I said,when asylum in China becomes a plausible option to him all bets are off IMO.

Where would I go? As I said earlier I'd go to Levenworth before I fled to China.

46 posted on 06/16/2013 12:05:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: null and void
Remember this guy?


47 posted on 06/16/2013 12:10:31 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You’d go to a lime pit before they’d waste a dollar feeding your useless mouth at Levenworth.

Can’t say nobody told you.


48 posted on 06/16/2013 12:11:33 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: fireman15; txhurl

Obama has had more of HIS enemies in the United States killed, than he has enemies of the United States.


49 posted on 06/16/2013 12:13:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Jackie Chan?


50 posted on 06/16/2013 12:17:57 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void; Gay State Conservative

51 posted on 06/16/2013 12:21:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: null and void
You’d go to a lime pit before they’d waste a dollar feeding your useless mouth at Levenworth.

Hey,if it would make you happy I'm willing to buy you a one way ticket to London where you can hide out with twinkle toed little fruitcake Communist,Julian Assange,in the Ecuadorian Embassy.The grand prize (if you're lucky enough to win it) would be the right to spend the rest of your born days in....drumroll,please....the Banana Republic of Ecuador.It's not quite China but it's got more than a little bit of the Fourth World Commie squalor for your enjoyment.

Just PM me your name and address and I'll get the ticket right over to you.

52 posted on 06/16/2013 12:23:15 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: trapped_in_LA; null and void
“Yes, and I would venture that any electronics made in China also has Chinese back doors installed.”

I bet Obama has an 'open' backdoor too.

53 posted on 06/16/2013 12:23:21 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Hey,some folks like China better than others.Whatever floats your boat.


54 posted on 06/16/2013 12:25:21 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
As I said earlier I'd go to Levenworth before I fled to China.

Well... I guess that means no one would ever know about the whole incident. You would be dead, the documents gone.

You would be a traitor just like Snowden is. But he's alive (we think) and you likely wouldn't be.

Yes, I said Snowden is a traitor to our 'government'.

However, considering that most posters on F.R. are on the government TRAITOR LIST, that kinda makes him my brother.

55 posted on 06/16/2013 12:29:22 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: null and void

Norma Hsu. Big foreign donation bundler for Hillary.

Wonder where he is these days ?


56 posted on 06/16/2013 12:31:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2
You would be dead, the documents gone.

So I'd have a better chance in China than in Levenworth? Yikes...next you'll be telling us that you still believe in the Easter Bunny.

57 posted on 06/16/2013 12:31:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: trapped_in_LA
He obviously had two goals when he did this, the first was to expose the illegal spying on US citizens (even if Congress says its legal it still is illegal according to the constitution) the second was to stay alive and out of US custody after doing the first. The only way to achieve the second goal is by having something that another country wants bad enough to tell the US to take a hike. It becomes very difficult for Hong Kong to turn this guy over now that they’ve lost face like this, the anger at the US is growing over seas more so then here in the US because of this.

Check out this article dated Friday in Xinhua, Beijing's official news outlet. Writes Xu Peixi (boldface added):

How can we understand and explain Snowden and similar figures? These young idealists, including the Washington Post's Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein who helped to bring down President Nixon in the Watergate affair, Wiki leaks' Julian Assange and former American soldier Bradley Manning, among others, can be categorized as the "bright feathers" of our time, to borrow some words from the popular American movie The Shawshank Redemption. Plus, they all embody the courage to fight against the system, which the film also celebrates. The 25-year old Manning is now a prisoner, having been arrested in May 2010 in Iraq on suspicion of having passed classified material to WikiLeaks. Assange has been confined in the Ecuadorian embassy in London for nearly a year. Snowden is on the run in Hong Kong. While human rights activists from developing countries (defined by Western apparatus for sure) are often blessed with a choice of hiding places, we are now seeing the dilemma of Western dissidents. For this reason China, despite the fact that it does not have a good reputation as far as Internet governance is concerned, should move boldly and grant Snowden asylum.

After all, what the American and British authorities have done to figures such as Snowden represents a challenge to the common sense of the global public. These people are too brilliant to be caged. Their feathers are too bright. For the surfacing evils that have been done and continue to be committed by the state-market alliance in the digital age, Snowden and those like him represent the hope and possibility that counter measures exist to combat these evils. Unfortunately, those who proclaim to the world "don't be evil" are themselves willing cooperators in the whole game and their profit-driven nature has led them to play a major role in this evil. If intelligence work can be contracted or outsourced this way, anything can.

Initially, I thought Snowden was nuts to choose to take refuge in Hong Kong. However, I now suspect China will ensure that Hong Kong refuses to extradite Snowden.

58 posted on 06/16/2013 12:31:58 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: UCANSEE2

That’s racist!


59 posted on 06/16/2013 12:32:42 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Sure. Back to the point, Let’s say you wanted to live. Being caught means being dead. Where would you go ?


60 posted on 06/16/2013 12:34:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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