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1 posted on 06/16/2013 8:23:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The question answers itself.


2 posted on 06/16/2013 8:26:52 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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The immigration debate needs to be killed till after the next election. There is nothing to be gained by it till we retake the senate.


3 posted on 06/16/2013 8:27:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Absolutely I think it would. It is a logical next step. Having been a Prosecutor for 25 years, I have seen the power of a Government and really don’t think most people appreciate just how powerful a government can be. If they want you, they get you. We are forced to rely upon the gate keepers to protect us from unbridled power. Indeed, there are some good people out there who do protect us. However, you want an immensely powerful Federal Government? Then give them a database. Worst idea in the world.

In short, find another way. Don’t do this.


4 posted on 06/16/2013 8:28:21 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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Just as Social Security numbers became adopted for identification uses never intended, E-Verify, they say, would draw many unexpected uses.<<

Straw-man argument!....the IRS already has more info on law abiding citizens than any E-verify could hope to amass..what could E-verify provide that the IRS doesn't already have?..that u applied for work??

5 posted on 06/16/2013 8:32:45 AM PDT by M-cubed
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Obama has access to evey gov’t database and actively uses the data against his idealogical/political foes. If he’s around, he will abuse it. Count on it.


6 posted on 06/16/2013 8:37:12 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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The elements to such a database already exist between socialism security and our passport system. Link in state drivers licenses (which already exists see REAL ID) with the NICS reporting system, IRS records, FBI background checks, and other info from so-called private sources like credit checking data, and well, you’re pretty well pwnd, folks. Already. That said, I don’t think this is a good thing, and if we are willing to have a fight about it (and it won’t be quick or easy), it’s possible to change things. Not likely, but possible. As some have noted, phone metadata is already unprotected by the 4th Amendment by virtue of Smith v. Maryland. That needs changed. And quite a bit more.


7 posted on 06/16/2013 8:38:44 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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We’ll never be able to control immigration and the visa system until we can effectively determine whether someone is legally eligible to work in the US. And since a SS# is required to work legally, making the SS# as foolproof and difficult to scam as possible is necessary to determine who is legally eligible to work.

And with a good system, the SS# alone should be an adequate control at the employer level.

If people are going to be spooked everytime attempts are made to tighten control over the use of SS#’s, then we might as well just throw in the towel and accept perpetual illegal immigration as part of living in the USA.


8 posted on 06/16/2013 9:01:01 AM PDT by Will88
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Of course it would. The whole purpose behind the 1965 immigration act was the creation of a surveillance state.

It’s why the feds haven’t done anything about illegal immigration prior to now. They had to get people mad enough about it to accept what will likely be your police state ID.


11 posted on 06/16/2013 9:29:32 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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yeah how did that e verify work out for our President? how did he get hired ?

http://obamafailedeverify.blogspot.com/


12 posted on 06/16/2013 9:33:14 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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All law abiding US citizens (except a few very young) are already in the SS system data bases and most are also in the IRS data bases. It’s the illegal aliens who are not in the system, and who can still use various forms of fraud to work illegally with a valid SS#.

The main people being protected by our failure to develop a realiable e-verify system are the illegal aliens. And that’s why many of the pro-amnesty/open borders folks oppose a reliable e-verify system.


13 posted on 06/16/2013 10:25:50 AM PDT by Will88
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This is just silly. The company I work for has used E-verify for years. Every employee has been run through the system. Guess what. We don’t have any illegal immigrants working here. The system is free, easy (if you have internet aand who doesn’t nowadays) and doesn’t require anymore information than the current I-9 form. Mainly, the check is to see if the social security number is valid, has the correct name and is not being used by multiple associates. If the check has a problem, the individual is notified and has 8 days to contact the government and start straightening it out. No one is fired immediately for failing the system. What is wrong with that? You are not giving the government any information they do not have unless the information is false. Anyone who opposes E-verify must not want to stop employment of illegals or doesn’t understand the system. I fail to see any government intrusion.


14 posted on 06/16/2013 11:25:48 AM PDT by Askwhy5times (http://bluegrasspundit.com/)
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We have on already i is called SSN#and yes they know who they belong to, don’t think that just because they are not supposed to share that info, that they don’t.

They don’t make it an issue because they don’t want to identify the illegals that are paying in on someone else’s SSN#.


16 posted on 06/16/2013 11:44:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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