Graham warns fellow Republicans: Without immigration bill, GOP to lose in 2016

AP Greenfield Reporter ^ | 6/16/13 | PHILIP ELLIOTT

[muawiyah]

nadler finally caved and recanted his claims ~ as I had said, he’s not a reliable witness for anything. It’s possible we had a love triangle I stepped into or something ~ but more likely someone wanted nadler to be truthful and me out of that thread.

[muawiyah]

So far they haven't said a thing but I did engage in Hanns Scharff type of interrogation. That's where you talk about just all sorts of things with someone over a period of time and using inductive reasoning, figure out the stuff they aren't discussing ~ which allows you to then focus in on just that. You box them in enough they finally start giving up the good stuff.

Scharff was considered the finest interrogator in human history.

What I discovered about the situation is a bit disturbing. There were two different moderators and there were specific topics they didn't wish to have referenced ~ let's just say early 1950's. There were other elements that result in a delay of approval for up to 8 hours ~ which meant that whatever they wanted to censor they couldn't quite figure out what I'd said.

One of them simply didn't want more than one post per thread ~ which is bizarre ~ maybe he thought that was a sign of an argument. Frankly, there were a couple of guys harrassing me who were later found engaging in a flame war with each other. I am sure you know them well.

BTW, three words you can't use ~ nadler hiss and chambers ~ we'll see if this gets through this time.

[AmericanExceptionalist]

The Democrats, in general, and a good number of Republicans, imagine a lot of things that really are imaginary. For instance, there's this belief that with more Latinos voting there will be more Democrats in Congress yet, most Latinos are already located in Democrat districts ~ many of them with Black or Jewish representatives (and it's the same thing at the state level).

That won't add more Democrats but it will sure anger a bunch of them when the Hispanics demand some party offices as well as seats in the legislature ~

Good points.

[Tammy8]

They may well lose without an immigration bill; they are dumb enough to and have proved it twice. I think if they do pass amnesty they will lose by a much larger number, not only in 2016 but likely forever.

[AmericanExceptionalist]

The ONLY good immigration reform legislation would be an act that vastly strengthened border security and internal enforcement of laws against hiring illegal aliens.

As to why I think most Hispanics will continue to vote overwhelmingly Democrat—it’s for the same reason that Blacks will continue to vote overwhelmingly Democrat. History and Experience. And that, my low-information friend, surely trumps your magical thinking that Republicans voting for Rubio’s version of immigration reform (Amnesty).

And by the way, my tolerance for nitwits is limited and you’ve used your allotment. I’ll waste no more of my time interacting with you and your uninformed silliness.

Suit yourself.

Your (quite smug) belief that all who differ with you must--must!--be mere "nitwits," who suffer from "magical thinking," says a great deal more about you than it does about anyone else...

[JLS]

You should be very careful of such BS when the author tells you early on it is an attach on markets. You can be sure in such cases it is an attempt to undermine private decision making and replace it with government or other collective decision making.