Posted on 06/17/2013 12:33:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Edited on 06/17/2013 12:35:38 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
LOS ANGELES, CA
(Excerpt) Read more at thegrio.com ...
In the Stephen Crane novella Maggie: A Girl of the Streets the Irish mother Mary Johnson assuages her guilt and feeds her denial with a bucket of beer. I understand camera lights can have the same effect.
Trayvon sure didn’t help his parents as far as his image is concerned.
I love that!
I have been saying that someone needs to post a 4th grade pic of George, next to mr dirt bag thug.
Glad You / someone did that.
A-hole media - lets make this viral!
There should be no fight over his 7 Eleven picture — they can have it for free.
They did?
Yeh the kids mother had kicked him out for basically being a little bad azz. He was a future inmate of Raiford prison. If he had not decided to go all street fighter on George Zimmerman he would likely have lived long enough to do something really bad.
Pumpin and pimpin the money machine.............In ever heard anything more hillarious, fighting for his image
Shouldn't this have taking place in Florida?
I dare the GRIO to start publishing his 7 Eleven photo. It’s part of the public domain, not traydemarkable, the last known picture of Martin, and free. I’m sure that when any of those other pictures are published that they have to pay the Martin foundation.
Come on, Grio, show some cojones and start publishing pictures of the real Trayvon that night — how he would want to be remembered.
Punk assed, dope headed, gangsta racist image.
LLS
You are correct that it is Zimmerman who is “put in jeopardy” by the trial The judge has ruled that nothing can be said about the character of Mr. Martin in opening statements, and to the extent that the trial is about Zimmerman that is the correct ruling. But absent the “Saint Trayvon” movement, Zimmerman would not be on trial.Zimmerman, it is said, should never have gotten out of his vehicle in his own neighborhood. But posit a case where the suspicious stranger is a white who is snooping around in a black neighborhood at night, and who is going to suggest that because there is a white man in the area, a black neighborhood watch captain has no right to be afoot in his own neighborhood?
In reality we are discussing this case only because it is about whether “black” is a "title of nobility."
As I understand the allegation, Zimmerman is depraved or something by reason of being part of neighborhood watch and wanting to be a police officer, in spite of having a job and family ties. Also, for being out of his car at the time he was told by a police dispatcher not to leave his car. Possibly also, for being 3/4 white (I don’t know if the prosecution is going to explicitly argue race.) There are other elements to this case. The cell phone recording that the prosecution’s experts say point to Trayvon screaming for help (or, stop). But, we don’t know what will be allowed in court. Sounds very weak. As you say, except for the intervention by outsiders, sounds like the case would have been dismissed. Depending on what the judge rules regarding the cell phone, either a motion to dismiss for lack of evidence, or an appeal of the decision to allow the cell phone into court would be in order.
”Would have been?” It was dropped by the police. Activists resurrected the case. And, by all appearances, synthesized “witnesses” to make it marketable.The cell phone recording that the prosecution’s experts say point to Trayvon screaming for help (or, stop). But, we don’t know what will be allowed in court. Sounds very weak. As you say, except for the intervention by outsiders, sounds like the case would have been dismissed. Depending on what the judge rules regarding the cell phone, either a motion to dismiss for lack of evidence, or an appeal of the decision to allow the cell phone into court would be in order.
From the 911 recordings, you can tell that someone was screaming. And that the screaming went on for what must have seemed, to the one screaming, to have been an interminable interval of time. Nobody can tell from that record who was screaming, or what, if anything, the screaming person was attempting to articulate. Or if the same person was screaming the whole time. But the 911 records do at least define a minimum time that we know the altercation was going on. So in that sense, at a minimum, the 911 recording is evidence.But as to the claims of the “expert” witness for the prosecution for what he claims to be able to hear, I’m sorry - I personally feel I’m better qualified to extract anything which is intelligible from those screams than the laughably “qualified” “experts.” I have been involved with trying to get a speech interpretation “dictation” program to work for someone. That’s not a high-level credential, but it is enough to tell me that the GIGO principle is in full effect in that field of endeavor.
The defense has experts who are qualified to speak on the topic, even if their expertise extends no further than to tell the jury that they can listen to the screams for themselves, and if they don’t hear any words being articulated, that is only because there weren’t any. Nobody can produce a known sample of what Treyvon would have sounded like when he was terrified and in extreme pain - and without subjecting Mr. Zimmerman to that duress, nobody can produce a known sample of what he would sound like under those conditions, either.
The fact that the prosecution comes up with “expert” witnesses with exceedingly sketchy credentials making extravagant claims for their own capabilities, and the defense comes up with well-credentialed experts who make modest claims of their own capabilities would, all by itself, convince me that the prosecution has no case worthy of the name. If they did, they wouldn’t touch testimony from those “experts” with a ten-foot pole.
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