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Report: Pentagon to open SEALs, Army Rangers to women
The Hill ^ | June 17, 2013 | Carlo Munoz

Posted on 06/17/2013 3:18:27 PM PDT by jazusamo

The Pentagon is planning to open the ranks of the Navy SEALs, the Army's elite Ranger units and other specialized combat outfits to female soldiers for the first time, according to reports.

The first opportunity female soliders will have to join the military's elite combat units will be with the Navy, according to Pentagon plans outlining the transition, obtained by the Associated Press on Monday.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel could officially announce plans to expand access to those units as soon as Tuesday, according to the AP.

Hagel's pending announcement builds upon former Pentagon chief Leon Panetta's decision in January to end the military's long standing ban on women in combat.

The time lines set by the Department of Defense (DOD) to open Ranger and SEAL units up to female soldiers and sailors are still being reviewed by senior military leaders.

Navy officials will open up the service's Riverine Forces to eligible female candidates, beginning next month, the Pentagon plan states.

Women sailors who fit the service criteria will be able to enroll in the Riverine Combat Skills course, a rigorous 33-day program designed to teach "basic expeditionary combat training necessary to ... perform high risk operations when assigned to Navy Riverine Force Organizations," according to a service website.

Next up will be the Army, whose leaders plan to open up the service's Ranger School at Fort Benning, Ga. to female candidates beginning in 2015.

The service's vaunted Ranger regiments specialize in small-unit combat tactics, airborne assault operations and are seen as the main entryway into Army Special Forces.

Service leaders expect to have new training and qualification requirements for female Ranger candidates by July 2015, the AP reports.

A year later, according to the Pentagon's plans, women sailors will be able to participate in the Navy's Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training program at the Naval Special Warfare Training Center in Coronado, Calif.

BUD/S is seen as one of the most intense training programs in the U.S. military, with roughly 70 percent of SEAL candidates failing to complete the program.

SEAL teams are responsible for some of the most sensitive counter terrorism and combat operations conducted by American armed forces.

Members of the Navy's Special Warfare Development Group, also known as SEAL Team Six, conducted the May 2011 raid in Abottabad, Pakistan that ended with the death of al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden.

While allowing female soldiers and sailors the opportunity to join Ranger or SEAL teams is major milestone for the Pentagon, female soldiers have already begun to play a key role in U.S. special operations in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

All-women units, known as Female Engagement Teams, already work alongside American regular and special forces units to train and equip U.S.-backed local militias in Afghanistan.

Female soldiers and officers have also risen through the intelligence and personnel fields within Special Operations Command and the command's service components.

But with special operations forces set to grow, in both size and operational tempo, the opportunities for women within the command to take part in operations worldwide will only increase.

Those opportunities will likely fall under "indirect action" missions, such as long-term training and advising efforts with foreign militaries, rather than direct combat-type operations, like the Bin Laden raid.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: combat; feminism; rangers; seals; women
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To: Nepeta; bayareablues

Well said by you both.


21 posted on 06/17/2013 3:31:20 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: M Kehoe
Oh this is a massively bad idea. It's going to fail in an epic way.

Those specialized combat units are no place for a female. In the interest of "fairness" this PC BS is going to get even more of our men and women in uniform killed.

(shakes head - sigh)

22 posted on 06/17/2013 3:31:53 PM PDT by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Well, about 50% of Seals are female. Navy SEALs on the other hand are all male.
23 posted on 06/17/2013 3:32:00 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: jazusamo

homosexuals lesbians and trasgender to follow


24 posted on 06/17/2013 3:32:10 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: unixfox

Does anyone ever ask the wives of our warriors what they think about women in their husbands units? What generally happens is the women are given the easy jobs...the shore duty jobs and men get even fewer breaks from heavy duty combat jobs.


25 posted on 06/17/2013 3:32:10 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: jazusamo

What’s the problem? In all the latest movies, women warriors routinely kicks the a$$ of all the men.


26 posted on 06/17/2013 3:32:29 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: jazusamo
Are they going to lower the standards for men and women, or just women?
27 posted on 06/17/2013 3:32:38 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy ( Because police powers are essential to the public good that abusing them is so offensive.)
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To: jazusamo
Here is they key phrase in this whole article:

"Service leaders expect to have new training and qualification requirements for female Ranger candidates by July 2015, the AP reports."

So in order to make sure women can qualify for these elite fighting units, they are going lower the standards. Would YOU want to be in a combat situation with someone who could only qualify under diminished standards?

28 posted on 06/17/2013 3:32:43 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
SEALS and Rangers open to women. For what possible reason?

Well, perilous and strenuous work makes men really horny and that needs to be accommodated in some sort of controlled manner.

29 posted on 06/17/2013 3:32:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: bayareablues
That's why you and I are not applying. There is no way I'm running towards gun fire.
30 posted on 06/17/2013 3:33:38 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Steel Wolf
As someone mentioned earlier, our government may be getting close to the point where it can’t be trusted with a competent military, anyway, so ... silver lining!

Already there, IMO -- But you should see some of the reactions here on FR if you were to argue the Constitution's two-year limitation on Army funding implies that we should defund the regular army [and let the States handle troops].

31 posted on 06/17/2013 3:34:37 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: colorado tanker

Please! I’ve seen plenty of movies and tv shows, women are WAY better at killing bad guys with the efficiency of the average commando than the typical loser guy.

Hollywood doesn’t lie! /sarc


32 posted on 06/17/2013 3:34:40 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Don Corleone
Demi Moore made it!

Any women that make it won't look like Demi Moore.

33 posted on 06/17/2013 3:34:58 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: jazusamo

The San Diego Union did a three part front page story a few years ago about how blacks were only about 1.5% of any of the Special Ops units, SEAL, Ranger, Special forces, Air Commandos, across the board, the demands of being so elite seemed to be pretty high, but in that article there was already admissions that the services were looking for ways to work in affirmative action.

The tone of the article was that racism was at work, now we will learn about the sexism of the warrior elite.


34 posted on 06/17/2013 3:36:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: jazusamo

obama wants to destroy the military and so do the people in power in the pentagon. If women want to join the SEALS they should have their own teams and leave the men out of this insanity.

I hope these women are worked until they can’t stand up anymore. I just bet the butch lesbians will join and scream discrimination at every turn.


35 posted on 06/17/2013 3:36:23 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: jazusamo
"Service leaders expect to have new training and qualification requirements for female Ranger candidates by July 2015, the AP reports."

What? They won't have the current training and qualification requirements?

I sure didn't see that coming...

36 posted on 06/17/2013 3:36:33 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Chgogal

No woman alive can pass Navy Seal training or Ranger training. Most men can’t. Standards WILL BE LOWERED.

Lord I’m glad I am an old man and out of the military now.
The US military has became the laughing stock of the world.
Private Bagel is the perfect dunce to carry on Obamagabe’s destruction of the US military. But you know what I don’t give a damn anymore. This country has gone to hell in a handbasket and it’s not coming back.


37 posted on 06/17/2013 3:36:49 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: arthurus

Read that back to yourself a few times and then see if it still sounds cute or if it sounds like a guy with woman issues.


38 posted on 06/17/2013 3:37:09 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jazusamo

wouldn’t matter if they were the same. (bet they won’t be)
they still don’t have to sign up for the draft .


39 posted on 06/17/2013 3:37:30 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: centurion316; jazusamo

This is ridiculous. The point of Ranger training isn’t to produce a bunch of buff guys. The point is when you are beyond tired after days without sleep or enough food and every muscle in your body aches, can you think clearly, issue the necessary orders and lead your patrol to accomplish the mission?


40 posted on 06/17/2013 3:37:44 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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