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Right wing, John Boehner in Hastert rule fight (GOP-E Scheming!)
Politico ^ | June 18, 2013 | JOHN BRESNAHAN and JAKE SHERMAN

Posted on 06/19/2013 5:48:24 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

House Speaker John Boehner’s right wing is acting up again.

First, hard-line conservatives failed in a January coup against the Ohio Republican. Then they tried to force a special meeting on immigration reform — but GOP leaders beat them to the punch. Now, fearful of a capitulation on immigration and fiscal issues, they want to force Boehner to have a majority of Republican support each time it considers a bill to increase spending.

Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.) is spurring the latest effort, and says he has more than half the 50 Republican backers needed — he won’t say how many — to force Boehner to hold a special party meeting to entertain the issue and make the “Hastert rule” more than a pledge that can be broken.

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But Republican leadership is confident the Salmon proposal will be defeated if it ever reaches a vote, and in fact, most top Republicans don’t believe Salmon has the support he is touting.

Even so, some Boehner allies have quietly been gathering intelligence on the insurgent push with rank-and-file lawmakers.

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These disaffected lawmakers don’t think Boehner’s a bad guy — many of them acknowledge he’s had a good few months — but they don’t trust his judgment. Boehner, in a closed-door meeting with GOP colleagues Tuesday, acknowledged that he broke the pledge on the fiscal cliff and aid for Hurricane Sandy. Boehner, though, said he had no choice and lacked “leverage” to force President Barack Obama and Senate Democrats to capitulate to GOP demands. That will not happen on immigration, he signaled.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; boehner; congress; fordfoundation; gope; nsablackmail; nwo; soros
The snarky tone of this article aside, Pollutico accidentally reveals the scheming and double-dealing that is going on in Boehner's camp to undermine Conservatives in the House Republican caucus.
1 posted on 06/19/2013 5:48:24 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Politico’s only reason for existence is getting Hillary elected in 2016. It was founded by her coven after she lost the Dem nomination in ‘08, and remains firmly committed to seeing her in the Oval Office.


2 posted on 06/19/2013 5:50:56 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Timber Rattler
More...

"Of course, some of the same lawmakers who vote against legislation want it to pass, but they don’t want their fingerprints on it. They want to be “purists,” one GOP aide said, knowing that other Republicans and Democrats will eventually bail them out.

“They don’t want to deal with the realities to having to govern,” groused a senior Republican staffer, speaking on condition of anonymity. “But Boehner has to act like a grown-up.”

And apparently "leverage" is Boehner's new buzzword for the summer.

3 posted on 06/19/2013 5:51:31 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

We need to push for more lesser evils to ensure we ‘win’.

Because it’s not important that they govern conservatively. In fact, it’s fine if they mirror the Democrats. They just have to win. I learned that from a lot of ‘conservatives”. Right here on FR. And get yelled at by them when I refuse to agree. Several of us do.

So lets all be good Republicans and help Bhoner ‘win’.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 5:56:44 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Timber Rattler

This double dealing has been going on since 2010. It was the conservative wing which got bonehead his speakership and he immediately took steps to silence them proving again there is no loyalty within ones party. Bonehead has a lofty impression how big his tent actually is because unless I miss my guess his state went for the Kenyan so he is a speaker from an enemy state.


5 posted on 06/19/2013 5:56:58 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Timber Rattler

From an earlier post:

You see ladies and gentlemen, the Hastert Rule was a tool used by the establishment to quiet conservatives. Before the ‘06 and ‘08 elections, the majority of the majority was the old guard. So they patted conservatives on the head and said, “sorry, little Jimmy conservative, but your proposal just does’t have a majority of republican support so we’re not going to do that.”
But in 2006, thirty some odd republicans either retired or were defeated, and then another thirty some odd in 2008. And then in 2010 some sixty or so conservatives were elected.

So now the conservatives have a majority of the majority and the old guard is in the minority of the majority. But the old guard has the speakership, and the majority leadership, and the whip, and the chairmen, etc. So of course, the Hastert Rule is thrown out the window.

Because the goal of the leadership of both parties is to stop conservatism, not liberalism. So Boehner and company will bring the bill to the floor, and get it passed with democrats and old guard republicans.

Which is why we need new leadership. Boehner should have been removed in January.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 5:57:53 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Timber Rattler

One way or another, Bonehead must go, period.


7 posted on 06/19/2013 5:58:57 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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The Republican Party should just cut all the pretense and officially merge with the Democrat Party.


8 posted on 06/19/2013 5:59:42 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: Thane_Banquo

And take the ‘ethically flexible’ psuedocons with them.


9 posted on 06/19/2013 6:01:05 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: txrefugee
Maybe, but the GOP-E likes to telegraph its moves and scheming in the rag, and uses it as the weapon of choice against Conservatives.

I suspect that this particular piece is a shot across Salmon's bow.

10 posted on 06/19/2013 6:03:38 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

AZ and TX are nearing the point of seceding.


11 posted on 06/19/2013 6:06:41 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Timber Rattler
Simply substitute “courage” for leverage - then you will see what the real problem is.
12 posted on 06/19/2013 6:49:59 AM PDT by USMA '71 ((Re-elect no one!))
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However, the conservatives have a big win under their belt. When they insisted on sequestration, there was great moaning and rending of garments among the leadership, saying that it would destroy the party. But what happened? Nada.

That is, the public doesn’t give a darn about sequestration, no matter how hard Obama tries to make it cruel to the public. This shows that there is such tremendous bloat in the budget that vast amounts could be cut before it even makes a ripple in public support.

The conservatives also know that this immigration deal is an unpopular stinker, except among those moneybags who want cheap Mexican workers instead of paying Americans a wage, and Democrats who see them as all future Democrats.

And, of course, a few RINOs who haven’t been culled yet.


13 posted on 06/19/2013 7:09:00 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: cotton1706
Because the goal of the leadership of both parties is to stop conservatism, not liberalism. So Boehner and company will bring the bill to the floor, and get it passed with democrats and old guard republicans.



Much Wisdom Cotton.

14 posted on 06/19/2013 11:04:55 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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But what happened? Nada.

Actually they spent nearly as much on Sandy as they sequestered, where did they get that money?

15 posted on 06/19/2013 11:07:21 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Timber Rattler

The assumption both (demo-coms and RINO/GOPES)are making is that the demo-com sourced polls on “demographics” are being bought into by conservatives.


16 posted on 06/19/2013 11:45:38 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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