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To: CottShop

You’ve made no case; you’ve just squirmed because you hate to admit that drugs are nothing but total destruction of humanity, with zero benefit.


33 posted on 06/24/2013 1:30:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

[[You’ve made no case;]]

BS- you;ve ignored the case that was made because it doesn’t fit your ‘man isn’t responsible for hteir own actions’ ideology and it doesn’t jive with your ‘peopel aren’t murderers, drugs cause murder’ scenario-

[[You’ve made no case; you’ve just squirmed because you hate to admit]]

what the hell are you talkin about? Since you’re gonna get pissy about it- Ill return the favor-

You’re the one that simpyl says ‘Nuh uh- they all were on drugs, so must be the drugs’ WITHOUT any evidnece to show that the drugs are the cause- You point to a site that lsits mass murders who ‘used’ drugs at soem point (of course t doesn’t state wehther they were currently on the drugs when htem urders were commited form ost of hte cases because htat might undermine the ‘the drugs casued them’ ideology), and hten without ANY evidence whatsoever, you claim the drugs so mess up a person that even when not on them they are mass murderers- you state that just hte fact that they were on the drugs is enough for you to incorrectly conlude that the only cause must be the drugs- withoput ANY evidence to back it up other than anecdotal evidneces which mean absolutely aquat in the science field by the way-

I’ve repeatedly stated- which you conveniently IGNORE- that the peopel were sick- They were prone to violence BEFORE goign o nthe meds, but none of htis maters to you

I then refuted you claim that ‘all mass murderers were on psycotropic drugs’ but this getse conveniently ignored as well-

I’m the only one here providing any sort of case- you just provide anectodtal evidences OF SICK PEOPLE commiting murders and lcaim it extrapolates out to mean that drugs are the cause hwen OBVIOUSLY there are other SEVERE issues at work i nthose cases- which again, you conveniently ignore- Tell us, woudl these murders have not occured IF those swick peopel had not been on drugs? Shoudl be an easy answer for you as you seem to be ab le to look into hte minds of peopel and determien exactly what causes their actions-

[[drugs are nothing but total destruction of humanity, with zero benefit.]]]

Wow- Just wow- That goes agaisnt all recorded studies and cases that prove that violent peopel ARE calmed by drugs- Guess their calmed states whiel on drugs must be due to somethign quite unrelated to tghe drugs eh? These drugs have helped millions- but by golly editor claism them to b e ‘the total destruction of mankind’ and therefore it was so-

Lemme know if you waNt to discuss future issues without hte personal insults eh? if not- then whatever- you’er on your own- Not really itnerested in discussing an issue firther when all you do is say ‘nuh uh’ and provide nothign but anectdotal evidneces as you ‘evidence’ to ‘prove’; a wild claim- I thought perghaps you coukld keep the discussio nclassy=- bvut I guess I was msitaken


34 posted on 06/24/2013 8:24:04 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: editor-surveyor

here’s mroe evidence for you to ignore- evidences that don’t fit your ‘antidepressants cause all mass murders” ideology

“Since 1900, the highest mass murder rate was in 1929. Mass public shootings are one of several types of mass murder and generally account for roughly 10-15 percent of all mass killings in the U.S.,” Duwe said.

hmmm- 1929- well before antidepressants were created- must have been soemthign i nthe drinkign water bakc then that ‘caused’ these peopel to commit mass murders-

“In 1913, he stabbed to death his wife and four children in Degerloch, near Stuttgart, then drove to Mühlhausen an der Enz where he opened fire on 20 people, killing at least nine, leaving two animals dead and several buildings burned to the ground.

In 1927, South African farmer Stephanus Swart shot dead at least eight people and injured three others in Charlestown, South Africa, before committing suicide.

In 1938 almost half of the population of the rural village of Kaio, near Tsuyama city in Japan, was murdered as 21-year-old Mutsuo Toi killed 30 people with a shotgun, sword and axe, injured three others and then shot himself to death.

Between 1954 and 1957, William Unek murdered a total of 57 people in two separate spree killings in the Belgian Congo.

He first killed 21 people with an axe, then shot dead ten men, eight women and eight children, slaughtered six more men with the axe, burned two women and a child, and strangled a 15-year-old girl.”

“Defined as bloody events that occur within a 24-hour period and that involve a minimum of four victims, mass murders have occurred all over the world, in different times, societies and cultures.

Some of the earliest recorded cases include the 1893 killing with guns and swords of 11 people (including an infant) in Osaka, Japan, the 1914 shooting of 7 people in the Italian village of Camerata Cornello, not to mention the case of German spree killer Ernst August Wagner.”

http://news.discovery.com/history/mass-shootings-history-121220.htm

On and on it goes- No antidepressants i nthsoe cases either-

And by golly- the sick quest for fame and notoriety by LOSERS has nothign to do with ‘causing’ the kids to murder today- nope- gotta just be a result of drugs because after all, we’ve learned that in early 1900’s drugs were the ‘cause’ of all mass murdeerrs then too.... oh wait- no we didn’t- here were no antidepressants hten- ooopsie

But alas- you’re right- I’m not providign anythign worth concidering- (well, anythign that jives with the ‘psycotropic drugs cause ALL mass murders mantra that is)


36 posted on 06/24/2013 8:46:56 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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