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Minuteman border watch co-founder jailed on child sex charges
The Washington Times ^ | 06/20/2013 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 06/20/2013 8:25:43 AM PDT by LonelyCon

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To: E. Pluribus Unum
That's not published law. It's a PDF, and it's likely related only to VA and WV, as it is.

National Forest lands are aligned with state law. If the state allows it, then it's fine. If the state disallows it, then it's disallowed on National Forest lands. The laws for National Forests are different from National Parks (allows only concealed carry if the state allows it), and National Monuments (not parks or forests). BLM lands are also different.

61 posted on 06/20/2013 11:26:55 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: JimRed

One of the best ways to eliminate a political enemy is to get him branded as a pedophile. Those charges never go away.

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Exactly what I was thinking.

That and having child pornography. Having no technical knowledge of my own, I asked a question on a thread, some months ago, about the possibility of remotely installing child pornography on someone’s hard drive in order to discredit him/take him out of circulation. Don’t know if it can be done, but I am betting it can be. Possession of such is one of the last taboos in our society and turns most people against the perv in possession.


62 posted on 06/20/2013 11:30:09 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: arbitrary.squid
If you're "no fan of this administration", that seems to me some sorts of code for you don't really understand how seriously totalitarian they have become and what they have shown us all they can and will do.

Your question stands, that's fine, but you should have asked about someone proven to be a child molester rather than accused of being so. That would have been a serious question, likely to be met with: "We hate child molesters regardless of party affiliation."

63 posted on 06/20/2013 11:32:41 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: NFHale; A.A. Cunningham; Dr. Thorne

I guess it says something very sad about our current state of affairs that we have doubts about the story because there have been so many cases of false accusations of such abuse. Usually, those false accusations seem to be made by vengeful women against their husbands.


64 posted on 06/20/2013 11:35:20 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
Cruz is NOT playing, neither are some others and neither should we.

I understand what you are saying (unfortunately good humor in your saying NFH), but we can't give up, can't go play, particularly on this immigration issue.

65 posted on 06/20/2013 11:37:44 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Bigg Red

” about the possibility of remotely installing child pornography on someone’s hard drive in order to discredit him/take him out of circulation”

Very difficult to do unless they open their computer to you somehow. The law has to prove that the perp knew the child porn was there. Luckily, child pornographers are very good about documenting their use of porn. They go to sites where it is available, they share it, they archive it.

A former coworker ran a porn site for the Russian mob after he got out of prison. He never “knew” what was on the site so he had plausible deniability.


66 posted on 06/20/2013 11:38:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Lakeshark; NFHale

Yes, the amnesty will destroy the country, and quickly.


67 posted on 06/20/2013 11:41:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Lakeshark

It can seem to you whatever sort of code you wish, that’s up to you. Obama’s administration isn’t the first to pull totalitarian BS. I haven’t liked many administrations in my lifetime since I started voting; I’m just contrarian that way. I do, however, have no doubt that if it were a leader of a liberal organization that was accused of molesting kids, there would be a rally of cries here to denounce the person, even if it were a right-leaning administration in power. Just because a person has started something you believe in, i.e. The Minutemen, doesn’t mean he isn’t capable of something like child molestation. That happens on both sides of the aisle. I’m not saying he’s guilty of it, but I’m certainly not going to run to his defense or cry that it’s a setup without knowing the facts. I would feel the same about a liberal accused of the crime.

I just find it interesting the rush to declare him the victim of a setup and am pointing out that it’s because of his ideology that he’s being supported in this way.


68 posted on 06/20/2013 11:47:33 AM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: arbitrary.squid
Very few have declared this guy innocent, that seems to have escaped your understanding. A lot of us have come to the conclusion, with facts, that this administration is quite capable of literally destroying their opposition with their power, unlike any other that has been in office.

That you take lightly their willingness to abuse power, that you equate the totalitarian insanity of this administration with any other administration is telling........also that you seem to presume he's guilty of child molesting.

I told you what your question should have been and what the answer would have been had you framed it correctly. You just didn't listen.

69 posted on 06/20/2013 11:56:53 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

You told me what my question should have been. Wow, how could I not be utterly grateful for that?


70 posted on 06/20/2013 12:05:54 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: knarf

“A 52 year old is more likely to touch a teenager .. 15, 16 and up before a 10 year old”

If we are talking about a sexual predator, I don’t think there is any relation at all between their age and the age of their preferred victims. They usually have one preferred age group and that doesn’t change no matter how old they get.


71 posted on 06/20/2013 12:08:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: arbitrary.squid
I can't help but notice you're avoiding the difference in the two questions.........

Why do you presume he's guilty? Do you have any evidence? do you know something we don't?

72 posted on 06/20/2013 12:10:04 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: marron

Not sure, but I’m confident it wasn’t while Teddy Roosevelt was still alive.


73 posted on 06/20/2013 12:11:44 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Lakeshark

And you’ve never answered my original question, but instead attacked my motivations for asking it.

Also “ I’m not saying he’s guilty of it, but I’m certainly not going to run to his defense or cry that it’s a setup without knowing the facts.” is a long way from presuming he’s guilty.

My original question had nothing to do with his innocence or guilt, just a speculation that were his political ideology different, he would not be judged to be the victim of a setup on this site. I find it interesting, is all. Good day, sir.


74 posted on 06/20/2013 12:15:14 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: arbitrary.squid
I'm glad "you find it interesting".

And your original question DID have an implication of guilt in it, sorry, it did.

Your question was deservedly challenged. Sorry about that. Good day to you too.........

75 posted on 06/20/2013 12:23:19 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Bigg Red

The smear is a useful tool that the left uses, and they’re adept at it.

What did Goebbels - another good socialist - say? “Tell the lie often enough and people believe it to be the truth” or something to that effect.


76 posted on 06/20/2013 12:23:38 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Lakeshark

Some on our side are good, no doubt.

We need more of them.


77 posted on 06/20/2013 12:24:10 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Lots more like Cruz would be good. He seems to be a keeper. A conservative who can hold his ground and continue to explain the rationale behind what he believes.

It's simply refreshing to see someone do that......

78 posted on 06/20/2013 12:26:58 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

“...A conservative who can hold his ground...”

I believe LtC Alan West holds his ground too. Good man.

We have too many of the Juan McCain types.


79 posted on 06/20/2013 12:28:36 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
West is great.

It's a shame he lost his seat, I hope he can find another elective office, he would be another like Cruz.

Gosh, maybe he could move to Arizona..........

:-)

80 posted on 06/20/2013 12:32:07 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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