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Detroit About To Blow Up The World?
The Market Ticker ^ | 6-20-2013 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 06/20/2013 11:01:59 AM PDT by blam

Detroit About To Blow Up The World?

Karl Denninger
The Market Ticker
June 20,2013

"Detroit Emergency Manager Kevyn Orr ordered an investigation into employee benefit programs, including the insurance and pension systems.

Orr told the city’s inspector and auditor general, agencies that both have subpoena power, to report within 60 days in an order dated today.

The document should cover “next steps, and any corrective, prospective, legal, additional investigatory or other action designed to address any waste, abuse, fraud or corruption uncovered,” according to Orr’s order.

Everyone raise their hand if they think this is just about people scamming "disability" and other pension-related things to which they're not really entitled.

Now everyone who raised your hand -- go find the nearest can of Drano and drink it. You're that dumb -- or hopeful.

Maybe both.

Remember how I've been talking for years about REMICs and how during the bubble years there were lots of "not quite right" acts when it comes to transfers of documents that simply never happened?

What if Orr finds that in his pretty little (far too little) pension funds?

This is the 900lb Gorilla in the china shop that nobody has wanted to go anywhere near, because it infests virtually everything when it comes to duration-matched funds (which pensions must be in order to "work") to some degree.

It's faded off the front page, of course, as the market has "recovered."

But that you don't smell the dead fish doesn't mean that it suddenly came back to life, or stopped rotting.

It just means that the bag it was put in has held up -- so far.

I've got the popcorn ready...



TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: corruption; crimes; detroit; pensions

1 posted on 06/20/2013 11:01:59 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I like a lot of Karl’s insights, but dude runs his forum like a junior high school teacher with bad PMS.


2 posted on 06/20/2013 11:07:07 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: blam

If they even managed to cut public employee pensions a little that would be enough to blow up the union’s world.


3 posted on 06/20/2013 11:14:44 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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"I like a lot of Karl’s insights, but dude runs his forum like a junior high school teacher with bad PMS."

LOL. I think he drinks while he works.

4 posted on 06/20/2013 11:20:26 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
So what is Karl Saying? These Pensions are loaded with REMIC's that are worthless?

Pardon me, but his writing style leaves a bit to be desired, please spell it out, and not infer...

5 posted on 06/20/2013 11:24:46 AM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: blam

If that’s the case, then he’s a mean and impatient drunk.


6 posted on 06/20/2013 11:25:04 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: blam

http://news.investors.com/061813-660353-detroit-chicago-shift-retiree-costs-to-obamacare.htm

The US taxpayers will be bailing out Detroit.


7 posted on 06/20/2013 11:25:06 AM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: blam

[Now everyone who raised your hand — go find the nearest can of Drano and drink it. ]

Well.... I can save everyone the trouble. It tastes salty, it foams up in your mouth, and it get’s really hot.

Stick to Starbucks Coffee. It doesn’t taste salty.


8 posted on 06/20/2013 11:29:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: blam

And what will this investigation find? Benefits were too generous, funds were not properly managed, there was this, there was that, the sun will rise tomorrow. Ho Hum but no jail time for anyone no matter what.

And then?


9 posted on 06/20/2013 11:39:53 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: roses of sharon
The US taxpayers will be bailing out Detroit.

That's called Obamacare and we'll be "bailing out" every city in the country in that respect.
10 posted on 06/20/2013 11:50:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: blam

What does this mean in ENGLISH? The author is rambling.


11 posted on 06/20/2013 11:55:29 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: blam

“This is the 900lb Gorilla in the china shop....”

No, no, no! The gorilla is in the room; a bull is in the china shop.


12 posted on 06/20/2013 1:48:24 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: count-your-change; roses of sharon
"And then?"

And then, the US taxpayers will bail out all the union pension accounts....It will be because, "The retirees worked their whole lives and it's not fair that their (absurd) pensions were mismanaged."

This will happen again and again in every major US city with the Affirmitive Action managed cities being the first at the trough.

13 posted on 06/20/2013 3:01:16 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Detroit the Start of the U.S. Death Spiral of Debt?
14 posted on 06/20/2013 3:39:38 PM PDT by blam
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