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To: kronos77

Once made a “hero” by so many at FR and the lockstep Ron Paul-driven libertarian cause, this guy Snowden can do no wrong.

If it dawns on him to begin sacrificing infants to pagan slaughter on a hilltop in Katmandu, he will have a cheerleading squad on what remains of the American right—more concerned that their idle e-chitchat and phone bill will be lumped into a database somewhere than their national defense be achieved.

Why are so many concerned with their “privacy” posting on a chatboard anyway? Has no one stopped to imagine that even one terror plot under surveillance last month has gone silent with the “warning” Snowden provided the perpetrators? Has anyone bothered to think of who will die if that plot is realized? And, really, has any all-so-righteous libertarian and 4th amendment hawk here or elsewhere decided whether he will jump from the 89th floor of the building or just stay put and be immolated?

You don’t want to sacrifice your freedom (to jump or burn up) for security? Excuse me, I’ve forgotten. Which feedom was that? It couldn’t possibly be the one so many gladly throw away themselves just to beat their own chests, could it?

FR hails Snowden’s “brave” flight to Moscow—?? Wow. You all should have been around in the middle of the last century. You would have LOVED the Oxford 5.


44 posted on 06/23/2013 6:20:03 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: PaleoBob

“FR hails Snowden’s “brave” flight to Moscow—?? Wow. You all should have been around in the middle of the last century.”

It’s a shame that he has to flee. In the middle of the last century we thought that such things the NSA and the IRS do at the moment could never ever happen in the US. We simply had a look over the iron courtain and knew what government should not do to it’s citizens. It was the time when right was right and wrong was wrong. We’ve lost that benchmark of “what gov should never do” set by the soviets after the cold war.


50 posted on 06/23/2013 6:31:42 AM PDT by SgtBilko
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To: PaleoBob

Thank you God, a voice of sanity in the middle of what I used to think were US-loving conservatives.


56 posted on 06/23/2013 6:42:03 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: PaleoBob
Once made a “hero” by so many at FR and the lockstep Ron Paul-driven libertarian cause, this guy Snowden can do no wrong.

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Ron Paul: Edward Snowden a Hero

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I’ll agree on this one. This unconstitutional spying on citizens crap must be shut down! Heads should roll!!

4 posted on Tue Jun 11 2013 17:53:08 GMT-0400 (EDT) by Jim Robinson

71 posted on 06/23/2013 7:10:10 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: PaleoBob

“Has no one stopped to imagine that even one terror plot under surveillance last month has gone silent with the “warning” Snowden provided the perpetrators? Has anyone bothered to think of who will die if that plot is realized? “

The point you are missing is that we don’t believe that OUR security and safety is the reason for the NSA’s actions.

We have plenty of reason to suspect that what has been going on has resulted in severe compromises to liberty and freedom and the constitution. We now have reason to suspect even more strongly that elected officials are being blackmailed, that certain justices on the supreme court are being blackmailed.

What you don’t seem to get is that those in control of the U.S. government are clearly on a mission to destroy our constitution and our way of life.

You don’t seem to recognize who the enemies really are.


88 posted on 06/23/2013 7:53:56 AM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: PaleoBob

>>If it dawns on him to begin sacrificing infants to pagan slaughter on a hilltop in Katmandu,

Nice non sequitur. So I take it you are OK with the NSA spying on Americans?

I don’t see the US government as having much legitimacy these days, thus the need for a Checka...I mean, FISA...


140 posted on 06/23/2013 8:49:32 PM PDT by oblomov
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